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What is the first thing that causes interference when you cycle the suspension?

What you’re saying simply isn’t true. I think you’re using the word uptravel incorrectly.

You used the word uptravel in your response to my original post. My reply used the same word that already seemed familiar to you.

That's why I didn't choose other words to describe the suspension compressing and extending.

Maybe you should define for us what uptravel means to you so we can understand you better when you use that term?
 
Hmm opening a can of worms!!!!!

Definitely. It's always politics, personalities and ego's that is the biggest hindrance to a workplace or even forum that keep it from being the best it can be.

That's why there are moderators to manage those things so this forum can continue to be a great place to share ideas, knowledge and solutions to the issues we encounter owning jeeps.
 
Definitely. It's always politics, personalities and ego's that is the biggest hindrance to a workplace or even forum that keep it from being the best it can be.

That's why there are moderators to manage those things so this forum can continue to be a great place to share ideas, knowledge and solutions to the issues we encounter owning jeeps.

If you would quit grandstanding and yammering you could get better at describing these things in a coherent manner.
 
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I watched Charlie Kirk tell a guy, "That's how you tell me you're losing without telling me you're losing".

I really liked how good he was at being able to have a discussion with people that didn't share his perspective.

Great guy, nothing more to really discuss here. Thanks for your input.
 
Maybe you should define for us what uptravel means to you so we can understand you better when you use that term?

Uptravel is how far a wheel can travel up from ride height without damage. Bumpstop compression is included. Stock it's about 4".

I usually assume whole-axle movement where both tires are going up at the same time, like when you hit a big bump. But it can mean articulation travel, which may give a different result.
 
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Maybe you should define for us what uptravel means to you so we can understand you better when you use that term?

Uptravel doesn’t mean anything to me. How non-postmodern of me. Uptravel is a term that has a definite meaning.

Start by thinking about shocks. At ride height on level ground go measure the amount of shock shaft showing.

Then think tires. Go cycle the suspension and see if the tire hits anything. If so that’s limiting your uptravel.

Then think track bars, control arms, and other components. So they hit anything or bind. That limits your uptravel.

We all know you don’t have 7” of uptravel and we know this from a number of things you said.
 
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I watched Charlie Kirk tell a guy, "That's how you tell me you're losing without telling me you're losing".

I really liked how good he was at being able to have a discussion with people that didn't share his perspective.

Great guy, nothing more to really discuss here. Thanks for your input.

Kirk was decent at distracting a discussion, which is exactly what you are doing because you are in the middle of losing the battle over whatever hill you have chosen to die on.
 
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I watched Charlie Kirk tell a guy, "That's how you tell me you're losing without telling me you're losing".

I really liked how good he was at being able to have a discussion with people that didn't share his perspective.

Great guy, nothing more to really discuss here. Thanks for your input.

Sadly for you this isn’t about perspective. It’s about reality.
 
Uptravel is how far a wheel can travel up from ride height without damage. Bumpstop compression is included. Stock it's about 4".

I usually assume whole-axle movement where both tires are going up at the same time, like when you hit a big bump. But it can mean articulation travel, which may give a different result.

Up travel is entirely defined by the shock travel. Everything else is a matter of clearances where stuff might crash into other stuff.
 
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So to reiterate my original post, hits doesn't hit. Those are facts.
No hill to die on here...

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So to reiterate my original post, hits doesn't hit. Those are facts.
No hill to die on here...

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Body clearance for tires is at the sheet metal, not at the flexible flares. You solved an aesthetic noise problem that bothered you, not a functional problem that would result in damage.

However, that is a distraction from the actual issue of setting up the suspension and fitting 35" tires.
 
Body clearance for tires is at the sheet metal, not at the flexible flares. You solved an aesthetic noise problem that bothered you, not a functional problem that would result in damage.

Was fixing to say the same thing!
 
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7” of travel would be impossible unless you did some crazy ass suspension work!

6” is about the max, which is what I have and took a shit ton of work to get there. Nothing is bolt on at that point.

Cute fenders tho’. Forums are to share knowledge and there is a knowledgeable group here. So when someone comes along with bad info, you are gonna be called out quick.

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