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I don't want to be here anymore...

I think a lot of this has to do with your perspective. I'm 35, but am very "old school". I work in the technology field, but favor analog cars, sports, the outdoors, and mechanical things compared to social media and electronics. I grew up in a small town in CT, my father worked hard and my mom was able to stay home and take care of us until we were in school, then she worked part time. I still remember when the computer was a thing in the corner I used to type my homework on, and not something I carried around in my pocket all day to be in constant forced engagement with my job, friends, and family. In some ways, our quality of life has gotten worse, with more stress. I have what I believe to be a good income, zero debt besides mortgage, and yet feel I would struggle to purchase an even slightly better home in my area or a new vehicle. I'm not sure how people do it with multiple kids. Modern vehicles have become basically financially irresponsible for the average person to own. I often feel caught in the middle between the generations like my grandparents, who lived through the best economy we have ever seen with tons of opportunity complaining how younger generations are lazy, and my student employees who work 3 jobs just to afford their used car payments and insurance, knowing they likely won't be able to find a job when they graduate with mountains of student debt they were brainwashed into believing they needed to be successful.

With all that said, there are many good points, it all depends on what you use technology for and who you surround yourself with. We have almost unlimited online resources to help us with our problems, like this forum. I've personally seen instances just in the automotive enthusiast world where people have gotten together from all over the country to help someone in need, some drove several hundred miles to help out, just in the name of community. If I have an issue with my house I can research it online and fix it, or at least educate myself on what I might need to do. I've met people over my lifetime that I would've never met back in the old days, simply because we both liked the same vehicle, or because one of us was selling something online and had a shared hobby. In my social circle at least, people usually ask "what do you do" as a way of networking. I run a side business repairing power equipment and ATVs, 100% of my business has been through networking and word of mouth. Just on my street I have two police officer neighbors, a lawyer, an insurance agent, a kinesiologist, and a network technician. It has nothing to do with materialistic things, I have no idea what their incomes are and I don't care. You can bet that when I have questions related to their field I ask them, and when they need tech advice or their snowblower repaired they come to me, and I'm glad they do. Before joining this forum I didn't even know male belly dancers existed. ;)

The world is different now, everywhere. You can either hate it and be pissed off forever, or try to make the best of it.
 
p.s. about 15 years ago we knew a family that was so tired of living in America that they took several out of country trips and decided to move to Costa Rica. They sold or gave away pretty much everything. I bought a nice Ridgid skillsaw and they gave me their 1960's tractor. Two years later they returned to America and I gave them their tractor back with some replaced gaskets. LOL. I still think America is the best place to live, but it has certainly declined, people quality and all. I like traveling and feel like it's easier to interact with people in foreign countries. I think its because there's no sense of long-term commitment and we can even be more vulnerable knowing that we will probably never see that person again.
 
@Zorba, I thought the title of this thread meant you wanted to be dead. 🤣

I pretty much agree with @freedom_in_4low. I'm all for kids riding in the back of a pickup truck in small towns and rural areas. Not so much in cities and high traffic areas. Same goes for seat belts. But hey, I agree with the thrust of what you say @Zorba, just try not to let your anger affect your judgment and quality of life. We're just like you, taking the long route rather than the short high traffic one. Going on trips during the week when places are less crowded rather than on the weekends. We're always trying to find where people aren't not where people are. I wish I lived in a rural area again. Living in town is mindless. I agree that people are shallow. Most every conversation is totally surface stuff about the weather or basketball or where they went to eat or what they are doing this weekend. There's nothing interesting. People are effete because they are empty and trying to fill that void with some imagined self-importance by having the latest and greatest gadget, car, and God forbid phone! My .02c.

Spoken like an American. I'm not in favor in any way shape or form of the state being a nanny of any kind. No offense - but your attitude is what has gotten us to this point and I patently reject that kind of thinking. But that's me, you do you. {BOW HERE}
 
Someone who is considering leaving the US must not be devout in a religion, specifically Christianity. There is no better country to live in if so.

Well, that's another topic for another day. I'm very serious about my spirituality, but it is in no way Christian.
 
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Spoken like an American. I'm not in favor in any way shape or form of the state being a nanny of any kind. No offense - but your attitude is what has gotten us to this point and I patently reject that kind of thinking. But that's me, you do you. {BOW HERE}

Not sure what you're referring too, but would like to know. Do you mean the riding in back of truck and seat belt comments? Or the whole post?
 
I think a lot of this has to do with your perspective. I'm 35, but am very "old school". I work in the technology field, but favor analog cars, sports, the outdoors, and mechanical things compared to social media and electronics. I grew up in a small town in CT, my father worked hard and my mom was able to stay home and take care of us until we were in school, then she worked part time. I still remember when the computer was a thing in the corner I used to type my homework on, and not something I carried around in my pocket all day to be in constant forced engagement with my job, friends, and family. In some ways, our quality of life has gotten worse, with more stress. I have what I believe to be a good income, zero debt besides mortgage, and yet feel I would struggle to purchase an even slightly better home in my area or a new vehicle. I'm not sure how people do it with multiple kids. Modern vehicles have become basically financially irresponsible for the average person to own. I often feel caught in the middle between the generations like my grandparents, who lived through the best economy we have ever seen with tons of opportunity complaining how younger generations are lazy, and my student employees who work 3 jobs just to afford their used car payments and insurance, knowing they likely won't be able to find a job when they graduate with mountains of student debt they were brainwashed into believing they needed to be successful.

With all that said, there are many good points, it all depends on what you use technology for and who you surround yourself with. We have almost unlimited online resources to help us with our problems, like this forum. I've personally seen instances just in the automotive enthusiast world where people have gotten together from all over the country to help someone in need, some drove several hundred miles to help out, just in the name of community. If I have an issue with my house I can research it online and fix it, or at least educate myself on what I might need to do. I've met people over my lifetime that I would've never met back in the old days, simply because we both liked the same vehicle, or because one of us was selling something online and had a shared hobby. In my social circle at least, people usually ask "what do you do" as a way of networking. I run a side business repairing power equipment and ATVs, 100% of my business has been through networking and word of mouth. Just on my street I have two police officer neighbors, a lawyer, an insurance agent, a kinesiologist, and a network technician. It has nothing to do with materialistic things, I have no idea what their incomes are and I don't care. You can bet that when I have questions related to their field I ask them, and when they need tech advice or their snowblower repaired they come to me, and I'm glad they do. Before joining this forum I didn't even know male belly dancers existed. ;)

The world is different now, everywhere. You can either hate it and be pissed off forever, or try to make the best of it.

Agreed. Again - I have no problems with tech when its properly applied, makes sense, and doesn't suck money out of my wallet or spy on me. That is why I have less than zero use for the smartphone - but when it comes to computers, I always have the best I can afford at the time and try to make it last at least 10 years. I made my entire career in "High Tech", and enjoyed most of it. Towards the end, I started seeing the downsides to tech - or better said - the downsides to the direction tech was/is headed in. Evil is the only word that fits.
 
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Not sure what you're referring too, but would like to know. Do you mean the riding in back of truck and seat belt comments? Or the whole post?

Sorry, just the seat belt and back of truck comments - the rest of your post makes sense.
 
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Sorry, just the seat belt and back of truck comments - the rest of your post makes sense.

Hang in there buddy. And if you do want to move to some other country I wish you all the best.

p.s. I don't really care too much where I live. I just try to make the best of it. I wouldn't mind living in other places of the world. I'm sure there are a few countries that would be absolute no's for living, at least for me.
 
Hang in there buddy. And if you do want to move to some other country I wish you all the best.

p.s. I don't really care too much where I live. I just try to make the best of it. I wouldn't mind living in other places of the world. I'm sure there are a few countries that would be absolute no's for living, at least for me.

Right now, I still think Florida is the best place in the world to live - but as this country and its citizens continue to auger in, its just the question of "for how long?". Wife says the US doesn't feel like home anymore. I've wanted to move to Greece for decades now, but Greece has also deteriorated what with the EU bullshit, etc.
 
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Just because the gov says you have to wear a seatbelt or get a ticket doesn't mean you have to do it. You can always take your chances. My Red Jeep was last registered in 2023. I'm still driving around.

Wearing your seatbelt is similar to your parents telling you not to walk too close to the edge of a cliff. Them telling you is not what makes it a bad idea. It is a bad idea.
 
Just because the gov says you have to wear a seatbelt or get a ticket doesn't mean you have to do it. You can always take your chances. My Red Jeep was last registered in 2023. I'm still driving around.

Wearing your seatbelt is similar to your parents telling you not to walk too close to the edge of a cliff. Them telling you is not what makes it a bad idea. It is a bad idea.

Exactly. As I said it's just protecting yourself from other idiots
 
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My 12 year old daughter can't legally sit in the front seat anymore, they changed the law after she had become legal. So now she has to be 13 to ride in the front. We mostly ignore that law I think she's gonna be fine if someone hits my F350. Plus with the dark tinted windows you can't see in anyway.

She can legally ride in the bed.

Approximately 18 to 20 states have no specific laws prohibiting passengers from riding in the bed of a pickup truck, making it legal by default. These states often include Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Delaware, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kentucky, Minnesota, Mississippi, Montana, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah, Vermont, Washington, West Virginia, and Wyoming.
 
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You would be protecting yourself from other shitty drivers by wearing a seatbelt in the city. Seemed like common sense to me, even with out the government involvement

I'm not saying that wearing a seatbelt isn't a good idea - quite the opposite. My complaint is the fact the fucking gov't gets involved. That's just wrong in my book, but never make the mistake of confusing laws or gov't with anything good or "right".
Just because the gov says you have to wear a seatbelt or get a ticket doesn't mean you have to do it. You can always take your chances. My Red Jeep was last registered in 2023. I'm still driving around.
The gov't is NEVER afraid or hesitant to show you who holds the stick that they will gladly beat you with at the slightest ( or no) excuse.
 
My complaint is the fact the fucking gov't gets involved. That's just wrong in my book,

I would like to understand your reasoning. I would like to understand the gov's reasoning too. Someone in this thread mentioned that it's important to wear your seatbelt so if you are in a wreck you as the driver are not dislodged from the driver's seat and able to possibly maintain some control of the car and avoid hurting someone else, presumably by swerving to miss another car, pedestrian, or cyclist. I don't know the reasons but am interested in prospective reasons. In this case, the gov would be trying to protect innocent people. I'm not saying they are right either. I'm genuinely just interested in understanding your reasoning and how you decide where to draw the line between something the govt rightfully gets involved versus something they don't rightfully get involved. They also set speed limits. Is that right or wrong?
 
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I would like to understand your reasoning. I would like to understand the gov's reasoning too. Someone in this thread mentioned that it's important to wear your seatbelt so if you are in a wreck you as the driver are not dislodged from the driver's seat and able to possibly maintain some control of the car and avoid hurting someone else, presumably by swerving to miss another car, pedestrian, or cyclist. I don't know the reasons but am interested in prospective reasons. In this case, the gov would be trying to protect innocent people. I'm not saying they are right either. I'm genuinely just interested in understanding your reasoning and how you decide where to draw the line between something the govt rightfully gets involved versus something they don't rightfully get involved. They also set speed limits. Is that right or wrong?

Laws protect other people from your stupidity. The law that forces you to buckle up protects the poor paramedic that had to scrape you off the road when you didn't do it.
I once pulled someone out of a wreck, a woman that didn't wear a seatbelt. Her head went through the windscreen and back. Those little glass splinters were in the place where used to be her eyes (and under the skin in her face). I consider myself a tough guy but this was on another level. I didn't forget it and that was 30 years ago.
Imagine you do this for a living. You want that law.
 
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