TJ won't start: Could it be my fuel pump?

How fortunate you discovered that in your driveway and not 4 hours from home on a jeep trail! :)

I was thinking the exact same thing. Although fortunately I have the best AAA plan you can get. But still...
 
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I may have run out of gas a few days ago on the freeway with the same half full fuel gauge. :oops:

Apparently it's a TJ thing. Mine seems to be just stuck at the half way mark. Last time this happened (after installing the GenRight fuel tank) it was just stuck on E.
 
Mine worked perfectly until I put in a new pump, either I've screwed up or there's an issue with the new one or the wiring connector. Banking on me screwing up at this point.
 
Mine worked perfectly until I put in a new pump, either I've screwed up or there's an issue with the new one or the wiring connector. Banking on me screwing up at this point.

Mine worked perfectly too until I put in that GenRight tank. All I can figure is that I installed the fuel pump wrong into the new tank, but I'm not really sure how that's possible. There was really only one way to install it, and I made certain that there was nothing in the way for the float to catch on.
 
You probably thought you were getting some really good fuel mileage on that tank of fuel...... :)

Haha, no kidding!

It was sitting at the shop for a month, so I sort of lost track about where the fuel level really was since the last time I filled it.
 
Fixed it!

So I am by no means the smartest guy in the world, but I like to think that after all these years, the wisdom is finally starting to come. I'm a very firm believer in the Occam's Razor principle, and I find in most cases, the most difficult answer usually has the simplest explanation. When people post about no-start issues, the first things I always think of are the simple things like batteries and such.

Well in this case, I took an hour and thought about it. I started it, it ran fine, and then it sputtered out. It continued to start, but each time it would sputter and sputter until it eventually just wouldn't start anymore at all (only turn over).

The fuel gauge showed it was at the 1/2 way mark, but if that was the case, why did it mimic that "out of fuel" experience when all of this happened.

I decided to run down to the gas station with my 2.5 gallon gas can. I filled it up, came home, filled up the TJ, and then cycled the ignition a number of time to make sure there was fuel in the lines.

I went to turn it over, and BOOM, it started right up just like always.

So, what does this mean? It means that my fuel level sensor in the tank is stuck again (if you remember, I had a problem with this before when I initially installed my GenRight aluminum tank). So this entire time I've been thinking I had gas in the tank, but I didn't.

I'm just glad I was smart enough to rule out the most simple explanation first, otherwise I'd probably have been chasing this like a mad man, replacing sensors, and who knows what else!

This is yet again another perfect example of Occam's Razor at it's finest.

Anyways, I'm just glad I solved this. Now I'll need to probably replace the fuel pump, as that sending unit has given me trouble once before. Again, I'm just glad it didn't end up being something much more difficult to track down.

The moral of the story here is to ALWAYS rule out the most simple explanations first, even if they seem stupid and silly.
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You should have made up something better than that. Glad it was easy
 
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When are you planning on dropping the tank? I'll help if I am free.

I think this time around I'll just order a brand new Bosch fuel pump to be safe. The sending unit is part of the fuel pump, and unless I'm wrong, I don't think you can purchase it separately (do you know if this is true @Jerry Bransford)?

Anyways, I'll order a new one and let you know when it gets here. Either way, it will be on a weekend for sure.

As always, appreciate the help! I feel like maybe we're both becoming experts on dropping TJ fuel tanks.

At least this time we don't have to worry about any of the evap lines. I'll be removing them entirely.
 
I think this time around I'll just order a brand new Bosch fuel pump to be safe. The sending unit is part of the fuel pump, and unless I'm wrong, I don't think you can purchase it separately (do you know if this is true @Jerry Bransford)?

Anyways, I'll order a new one and let you know when it gets here. Either way, it will be on a weekend for sure.

As always, appreciate the help! I feel like maybe we're both becoming experts on dropping TJ fuel tanks.

At least this time we don't have to worry about any of the evap lines. I'll be removing them entirely.

Chris, you can get the sending unit by itself. Here's a link. I think this is the right part number for our Jeeps, confirm though.

https://www.mymoparparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-sending-unit-5161336aa
 
Hopefully the sender assembly is no longer spot welded to the housing as it is on the earlier 2004 and older housings I am familiar with. You might consider replacing the whole assembly with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZGCWY/?tag=wranglerorg-20 and removing the fuel pump from the existing housing to keep as a spare.

I may just do that instead Jerry.

One thing I noticed about that sending unit, it's listed as only fitting 05-06 models, so that seems to suggest that it may not be spot welded like the earlier models.

Either way, replacing the entire fuel pump and keeping the existing one for a spare may just be the better option.
 
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I may just do that instead Jerry.

One thing I noticed about that sending unit, it's listed as only fitting 05-06 models, so that seems to suggest that it may not be spot welded like the earlier models.

Either way, replacing the entire fuel pump and keeping the existing one for a spare may just be the better option.
If you are going through the trouble of dropping the tank to fix the sender. Might as well replace the hole thing.

I know everyone is die hard OEM people. With the problems with the inaccurate sending units it makes me wonder if someone has made a better fuel pump. Especially since Bosch is no longer producing the TJ pump. i know that there are Bosch replacements available).
 
When I drop the tank again this time, it will be the 4th time I believe.

For something so easy (only help on by a few bolts) it's really a pain in the ass to have to remove, mostly just because of all the evap lines and fuel filler neck.

Though I guess now I really have an excuse to remove the tank, because now I can cap off my evap lines once and for all, since I disabled the evap system.
At least it wont be very heavy :meparto:

Glad you figured it out.

Edit (just noticed tom beat me to it) lol
 
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If you are going through the trouble of dropping the tank to fix the sender. Might as well replace the hole thing.

I know everyone is die hard OEM people. With the problems with the inaccurate sending units it makes me wonder if someone has made a better fuel pump. Especially since Bosch is no longer producing the TJ pump. i know that there are Bosch replacements available).
Bosch is apparently still making them for 05-06 TJs.
 
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