How fortunate you discovered that in your driveway and not 4 hours from home on a jeep trail!![]()
I may have run out of gas a few days ago on the freeway with the same half full fuel gauge.![]()
Mine worked perfectly until I put in a new pump, either I've screwed up or there's an issue with the new one or the wiring connector. Banking on me screwing up at this point.
You probably thought you were getting some really good fuel mileage on that tank of fuel......![]()
:roflmao:Fixed it!
So I am by no means the smartest guy in the world, but I like to think that after all these years, the wisdom is finally starting to come. I'm a very firm believer in the Occam's Razor principle, and I find in most cases, the most difficult answer usually has the simplest explanation. When people post about no-start issues, the first things I always think of are the simple things like batteries and such.
Well in this case, I took an hour and thought about it. I started it, it ran fine, and then it sputtered out. It continued to start, but each time it would sputter and sputter until it eventually just wouldn't start anymore at all (only turn over).
The fuel gauge showed it was at the 1/2 way mark, but if that was the case, why did it mimic that "out of fuel" experience when all of this happened.
I decided to run down to the gas station with my 2.5 gallon gas can. I filled it up, came home, filled up the TJ, and then cycled the ignition a number of time to make sure there was fuel in the lines.
I went to turn it over, and BOOM, it started right up just like always.
So, what does this mean? It means that my fuel level sensor in the tank is stuck again (if you remember, I had a problem with this before when I initially installed my GenRight aluminum tank). So this entire time I've been thinking I had gas in the tank, but I didn't.
I'm just glad I was smart enough to rule out the most simple explanation first, otherwise I'd probably have been chasing this like a mad man, replacing sensors, and who knows what else!
This is yet again another perfect example of Occam's Razor at it's finest.
Anyways, I'm just glad I solved this. Now I'll need to probably replace the fuel pump, as that sending unit has given me trouble once before. Again, I'm just glad it didn't end up being something much more difficult to track down.
The moral of the story here is to ALWAYS rule out the most simple explanations first, even if they seem stupid and silly.
When are you planning on dropping the tank? I'll help if I am free.
I think this time around I'll just order a brand new Bosch fuel pump to be safe. The sending unit is part of the fuel pump, and unless I'm wrong, I don't think you can purchase it separately (do you know if this is true @Jerry Bransford)?
Anyways, I'll order a new one and let you know when it gets here. Either way, it will be on a weekend for sure.
As always, appreciate the help! I feel like maybe we're both becoming experts on dropping TJ fuel tanks.
At least this time we don't have to worry about any of the evap lines. I'll be removing them entirely.
Chris, you can get the sending unit by itself. Here's a link. I think this is the right part number for our Jeeps, confirm though.
https://www.mymoparparts.com/oem-parts/mopar-sending-unit-5161336aa
Hopefully the sender assembly is no longer spot welded to the housing as it is on the earlier 2004 and older housings I am familiar with. You might consider replacing the whole assembly with https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000BZGCWY/?tag=wranglerorg-20 and removing the fuel pump from the existing housing to keep as a spare.
At least you know the tanks nearly empty and shouldn’t be too heavy? Lol
If you are going through the trouble of dropping the tank to fix the sender. Might as well replace the hole thing.I may just do that instead Jerry.
One thing I noticed about that sending unit, it's listed as only fitting 05-06 models, so that seems to suggest that it may not be spot welded like the earlier models.
Either way, replacing the entire fuel pump and keeping the existing one for a spare may just be the better option.
At least it wont be very heavy :meparto:When I drop the tank again this time, it will be the 4th time I believe.
For something so easy (only help on by a few bolts) it's really a pain in the ass to have to remove, mostly just because of all the evap lines and fuel filler neck.
Though I guess now I really have an excuse to remove the tank, because now I can cap off my evap lines once and for all, since I disabled the evap system.
Bosch is apparently still making them for 05-06 TJs.If you are going through the trouble of dropping the tank to fix the sender. Might as well replace the hole thing.
I know everyone is die hard OEM people. With the problems with the inaccurate sending units it makes me wonder if someone has made a better fuel pump. Especially since Bosch is no longer producing the TJ pump. i know that there are Bosch replacements available).