Swapping out my radiator this weekend: Have some concerns

Just because I am preventive maintenance OCD, when I was doing my cooling system, I did all of it at once. Fan clutch, t-stat, radiator, hoses, belt idler pulley and belt tensioner. Temp relay too. Scorched earth policy. It's only money that can become worthless with the stroke of a politician's pen, but a Jeep will always be a Jeep. Oddly enough, I did not replace the T-stat housing. Wanna make a bet?
 
I tend to replace the hoses as well. In kind of a funny way timeline of events I replaced almost all of my cooling stuff except my radiator and when I filled the system back up and got it bled and everything and as I was letting it heat up a stream of coolant occurred from the radiator. I decided to not even attempt a repair and just ordered one.
 
Hey guys, just a quick follow up.

Swapped the radiator yesterday. All of it went pretty well up until I filled it up with zerex g-05, burped the system and started him up. Now it’s leaking from the bottom of the block very slowly until it cools down.

Upon further research it appears to be my water pump. Possibly from the two flushes I put thru the system prior to the swap, I unclogged the bearing. I replaced EVERYTHING but the fan clutch and water pump as I didn’t have the proper tools to take the fan off and didn’t want to mess around with the belt.

Has anyone experienced this? At first I was very concerned thinking it was coming from the engine, and then learned the weep hole is above the spot it was dripping and just running down. Hoping it’s just that, but you know how it goes.

Oh and during the process I also broke my oil cap and dipstick when I was changing my oil. So that’s neat
 
While I have not experienced this, it would have been wise to do the water pump at the same time.

It sounds to me like your water pump gasket might be bad.

If you're going through the trouble of replacing the gasket though, you'd be stupid not to just replace the water pump at the same time (unless it's been replaced very recently).
 
While I have not experienced this, it would have been wise to do the water pump at the same time.

It sounds to me like your water pump gasket might be bad.

If you're going through the trouble of replacing the gasket though, you'd be stupid not to just replace the water pump at the same time (unless it's been replaced very recently).
Yeah, I had the thought of doing it and after seeing the fan removal decided against it. I’m definitely going to replace it ASAP, however I just wanted to be certain that was my culprit. From everything I’ve watched/read it seems to be the exact case, but there’s always that doubt that maybe the Tstat gasket is leaking underneath etc
 
Yeah, I had the thought of doing it and after seeing the fan removal decided against it. I’m definitely going to replace it ASAP, however I just wanted to be certain that was my culprit. From everything I’ve watched/read it seems to be the exact case, but there’s always that doubt that maybe the Tstat gasket is leaking underneath etc

One way you can always know for sure is to put some of that UV dye in the coolant, run the engine, then get a UV flashlight in the dark and see where the coolant is coming from. That will show you exactly where the leak is.

I use that stuff anytime I have a leak, just to be certain I know where it's coming from and I'm not guessing.
 
When I replaced all my stuff, I didn't replace the thermostat housing, just cleaned it up in our parts washer at work. It kept wanting to leak though around where the upper radiator hose was attached to the thermostat. I didn't have one of the constant tension or spring style hose clamps and just kept tightening it and eventually it stopped.

IMO the belt and everything on the front is one of the easiest engines you'll ever work on. Go ahead and replace your belt and keep your old one as a spare if you want, because you can swap that in a few minutes in the field.

Which style of fan do you have? My Wrangler has the type that with I believe it's a 1/2" wrench and sturdy screwdriver you can have on and off in just a few minutes. If it's the style like my Grand Cherokee has, then I suggest borrowing/getting the special tools from an auto parts store. Though the tools aren't necessary, I'm not good enough to do it without the tool.

If your this involved, take a look at your harmonic balancer. Look for any dry rot or anything that looks like it isn't new. Check your pulleys as well and replace any that act suspect. Heck you can change your timing chain in like a half hour or so once your harmonic balancer is removed.
 
When I replaced all my stuff, I didn't replace the thermostat housing, just cleaned it up in our parts washer at work. It kept wanting to leak though around where the upper radiator hose was attached to the thermostat. I didn't have one of the constant tension or spring style hose clamps and just kept tightening it and eventually it stopped.

IMO the belt and everything on the front is one of the easiest engines you'll ever work on. Go ahead and replace your belt and keep your old one as a spare if you want, because you can swap that in a few minutes in the field.

Which style of fan do you have? My Wrangler has the type that with I believe it's a 1/2" wrench and sturdy screwdriver you can have on and off in just a few minutes. If it's the style like my Grand Cherokee has, then I suggest borrowing/getting the special tools from an auto parts store. Though the tools aren't necessary, I'm not good enough to do it without the tool.

If your this involved, take a look at your harmonic balancer. Look for any dry rot or anything that looks like it isn't new. Check your pulleys as well and replace any that act suspect. Heck you can change your timing chain in like a half hour or so once your harmonic balancer is removed.

I had the same issue with the thermostat housing, and it was a constant tension clamp. I ended up replacing the clamp to a worm drive until I can order some fresh ones, I think that it was worn out.

I have to look into the fan, I'm not sure what size it is. While I'm at it, I'm probably going to replace the fan clutch as well, so I'll look into the harmonic balancer. I appreciate the insight.
 
I've had problems with that clamp. I think the valve cover sometimes doesn't allow the constant tension clamp to slide all the way on so it leaks. I don't know if replacement housings are different or I put my valve cover on wrong but I ground down my valve cover lip a tiny bit so the spring clamp easily slides all the way on and no more leaks.
 
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I've had problems with that clamp. I think the valve cover sometimes doesn't allow the constant tension clamp to slide all the way on so it leaks. I don't know if replacement housings are different or I put my valve cover on wrong but I ground down my valve cover lip a tiny bit so the spring clamp easily slides all the way on and no more leaks.
It’s reassuring to find that any problem I come across with my Jeep, someone else on this forum has dealt with it too.