Well, I'm only 20 so I don't think I'm too too disconnected from the kids today. I still think you can raise your kids to be responsible by the time they're of driving age. My parents didn't raise me to be a dumbass teenager, but that isn't to say I didn't do stupid things. I just never did anything breathtakingly stupid like some of my friends ( IE: totaling out two cars in two weeks, driving at 60mph on bike paths, sinking their trucks in rivers). I hope to be able to trust my future kids with my TJ by the time they are 16 or 17.