If you know, then you can correct future claims and no longer refer to it as a "full" cage.Obviously not and I know where this is going so I’m changing mine to Hi-Lift Jack
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One of the reasons why I'll never be a great product designer. I lack the ability to get in the heads of folks and understand why they want something. The whole ventilated shade tops that give partial shade and their desirability totally escapes me. You either want shade or you don't. I don't want some shade, I want all I can get or I don't want any. Having owned a tarp shop for awhile, I'm well familiar with the netting used to make the Spider shade tops and others of similar design, I just don't get the why.
Oh please, a bit humble are we? IMO the the main selling point that draws in people to the Spider shade type products is the, "oh pretty colors," aspect of it.
Not really. I've had many ideas over the years but never followed through on them because I just couldn't get my head around the appeal or lack thereof. Hard mounted grab bars, cargo net style tops that snapped into the stock door surrounds and used the belt rail, ABS thermoformed bikini tops and Safari tops, interior lights for the back with a rear mounted switch, body mounts that don't hang over the frame, exterior storage baskets in unique places, under seat storage boxes that lock, storage boxes beside the seats, hidden storage in the wheel wells with boat hatches, and lots of others.Oh please, a bit humble are we? IMO the the main selling point that draws in people to the Spider shade type products is the, "oh pretty colors," aspect of it.
TJBob
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That idea about the storage in the wheel wells would be a cool idea. If you could make them functional and big enough to fit recovery gear and/or emergency gear in. Would open up a little room in the back. I use my Jeep as a DD and for off road/camping. I have a wife and 2 little girls. Anytime we go to a softball game, or meet, or have any more cargo than people, it gets tight in a hurry.
So anything storage wise that fits outside of the cabin, and is low profile enough it don’t take away from the look of the Jeep... and you can fit more than a pair of gloves in, I’d probably buy it.
From a fab/design standpoint, that’s probably next to impossible, without some serious modifications to the wheel wells themselves?
Motobilt recently (within the last year or so) started offering rear interior wheel well tops. They are designed to be be placed over and welded to the top of the interior rear wheel wells after being cut out of a Jeep YJ. Doing so gives the rear wheel wells 4 more inches of uptravel room and making room for rear coilovers to be mounted as high as possible without entering the inside if the tub.
But, it would be cool to see something like this mounted and used as a somewhat small storage compartment with locking doors. Not exactly along the lines of your thinking but just thought about it more after you mentioned it. And not sure how practical it would be.
I can just see you at the concept meeting, "please, somebody tell me again why we are making the sunroof glass?"
Tuffy has made fender boxes at some point, I don't know if they still do.
My tuffy drawer is a close second, where else am I going to put my bear treats when I'm parked at the trailhead for a few days?
Brianj5600
TJ Expert
If you know, then you can correct future claims and no longer refer to it as a "full" cage.
What are your thoughts on the A-pillar formed plates vs a tube? The plates pretty much rule out a door bar, but my Jeep is my daily so I don't really want a door bar. Have you seen how the formed plates hold up in a serious roll over?
TJBob
TJ Enthusiast
Now that I’m thinking about it, is there anyone who offers a bumper that can be used as a small utility box? That would make more sense. Just need enough room for a couple tow ropes, or chain, and tree straps and a few common hand tools. That would be 1 or 2 ammo boxes someone could get out of the the interior.
Is the cage tied into the frame? If not there is a large increase that the “floor plates” can punch right through the floor...if that happens, whats the point of them?
I should pass that along to the manufacturer as wellIf you know, then you can correct future claims and no longer refer to it as a "full" cage.
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Plenty of threads about trail cages, maybe go there?
I bought mirrors and took my doors off once. All my friends always bust my chops about taking the doors off but I did it once and wasn't blown away (pun intended). Maybe I'll try this season on a few trails and see what I think. I do like full doors especially on the drive home.
I bought mirrors and took my doors off once. All my friends always bust my chops about taking the doors off but I did it once and wasn't blown away (pun intended). Maybe I'll try this season on a few trails and see what I think. I do like full doors especially on the drive home.
Brianj5600
TJ Expert
I still have the stock show cage. I want to put a real cage in my Jeep though. I have a cage in my '67 Mustang and is NHRA legal with 6"x6" fully welded plates to the unibody. Do Jeeps have trouble with floor plates punching through?
Put a few rigs on the race course for something like KOH and you'll quickly discover the difference between what any manufacturer says and reality. By the time you get the cage built and get it to pass tech, it will be made of 2" .120 wall DOM since you will be above the weight limit for 1.75" .120 wall. That and door bars so you have to climb in the window are mandatory and part of the cage.
They can call it whatever they like. You can believe them or the reality of what constitutes a cage or not.