Help installing Body Armor 4x4 rock rails / steps

[Nick21]

I'm trying to install these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NP1PPG/?tag=wranglerorg-20

Which according to amazon should work in my 98 wrangler (has a 1.25 body lift), however it doesnt seem to be going in at all. I attached some pictures, hopefully someone is more mechanically inclined then I am can tell me what I am doing wrong. Thanks

 

[Chris]

These don't go here:

You've got those things installed completely wrong and then some. First off, they are upside down.

They shouldn't be on top of the body mount brackets, they go inside of them (or under them). Hard to explain, but the way you have it not isn't even close to being correct.

Hopefully I'm making sense. I had the same ones on mine with a Savvy 1.25" body lift.

 

[Zach Allen]

Looks like you have them on upside down? Here's how mine looks (look at the angled ends)

 

[Nick21]

Thank you zach & chris that makes a lot of sense. Not sure why I was thinking that went on up top ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Chris]

Happy to help! Thankfully @Zach Allen chimed in with those photos!

 

[MaloStapalo]

Looks like you have them on upside down? Here's how mine looks (look at the angled ends)

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You're going to rip those right off unless they're being used for very light duty, bling candy, or as just s person step. They are not built to handle rocks or jeep weight impacts.

See the difference?

 

[EzPeezy]

No, those aren't going to rip off easily. They aren't as strong as the tub mounted type. They will flex a bit and press into the bottom of the tub if you're skidding heavily on a rock, but they'll be fine. I came down on them very hard a bunch of times and they held up fine.

I changed to the tub mounted kind when I found a good deal on a used set, because the clearance is way better than the body mounted type.

 

[MaloStapalo]

No, those aren't going to rip off easily. They aren't as strong as the tub mounted type. They will flex a bit and press into the bottom of the tub if you're skidding heavily on a rock, but they'll be fine. I came down on them very hard a bunch of times and they held up fine.

I changed to the tub mounted kind when I found a good deal on a used set, because the clearance is way better than the body mounted type.

Let me clarify since you didn't seem to understand it the first time. Any designer that uses any aspect of the OEM body mounting system on a TJ to affix or support by any method, any metal appliance in the form of a rock rail that is intended to be used as such is a fucking moron. Do you need more clarification?

Go study the torque box. Spend some time analyzing it, over analyze it some, then study it some more. Certain things should become obvious after awhile.
1- there are only 3 points to mount a rail
2- the mount holes are not on flat surfaces, some are dimpled upwards.
3- the total combined torque of the 3 bolts is not enough to stabilize a rock rail that is used.
4- sheet metal is not a great material for large fasteners. It requires lots of small fasteners.
5- What the hell were you thinking?

From another thread in reference to using body mount bolts as anchors.

 

[Nick21]

Not an issue for me as it's mostly dirt/mud/snow for me up here in washington. I dont mess around with that rock stuff .

Side note i was able to get them installed ok

 

[Michelle99]

Has anybody seen these rubber liners, I manage to take apart the whole front end and for the life of me can't remember where they came from.