Wildman's TJ is getting a face lift

Wildman said:
Well since @someguysjeep has JK axles does that mean he's going to go semi-LCOG??? :ROFLMAO: :unsure:
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to late for this 1 but i do have some ideas for the next. not really sure i'd qualify anything i've seen yet as LCOG.

i'm waiting for someone to build for 37-39's on no lift, that might qualify as LCOG.
been considering my next rig to be big axles (FF 60's), big tires (37-39"), no lift...... all cut out of the tub (HL front end and trim the rear out.)


i found someone that did what your trying to do here.
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2400807403311151/?ref=messenger_share
 
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Wildman said:
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@mrblaine if I was to build a small mounting plate for the adapter to sit onto on the inside of the frame what size/thickness metal would I need. I'm thinking something to support the adapter that sits inside the frame.
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How thick is the metal of the adapter plate? Use that.
 
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Yellow_Machine said:
LCOG?
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For a while all the magazines coined this term. Build the vehicle with as little of lift as possible and run the largest tire that you could. Some builds sacrificed up travel to achieve this with no regard for ride quality. It's become a joke now when some people still use the term.

@someguysjeep I hope you know that I was just flipping you some shit.
 
jjvw said:
How thick is the metal of the adapter plate? Use that.
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0.135 = 27/200 with 1/8" being the closest. 0.185 = 3/16
I couldn't find any 3/16" plate for the fish plate but they had 1/4" plate so that is what I bought. So I could try to build a bracket for the adapter with that. Just thinking here. Might be too much but would rather make it too strong not strong enough. Looking at how the frame sits I would think I'd want to mark where I want this bracket at and weld it up before I put the frame back in.
 
Wildman said:
0.135 = 27/200 with 1/8" being the closest. 0.185 = 3/16
I couldn't find any 3/16" plate for the fish plate but they had 1/4" plate so that is what I bought. So I could try to build a bracket for the adapter with that. Just thinking here. Might be too much but would rather make it too strong not strong enough. Looking at how the frame sits I would think I'd want to mark where I want this bracket at and weld it up before I put the frame back in.
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How thick is the stock spring perch?
 
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mrblaine said:
How thick is the stock spring perch?
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I have no idea will have to measure it. Without measuring them I'd guess 3/16" or 1/8".
Again I'm sorry if I am asking stupid questions here. Is the stock spring perch stronger because it is a shaped item? Like with my rims, because the centers are pressed this is suppose to add strength.
 
Wildman said:
I have no idea will have to measure it. Without measuring them I'd guess 3/16" or 1/8".
Again I'm sorry if I am asking stupid questions here. Is the stock spring perch stronger because it is a shaped item? Like with my rims, because the centers are pressed this is suppose to add strength.
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It is roughly 1/8" and it is a well designed stamping with a supporting U across the middle. You have a mount on top of the bag that only has one weak area and that is the tab hanging over the end.

It doesn't look like it needs much to work as a stand alone mount to the frame.
 
mrblaine said:
It is roughly 1/8" and it is a well designed stamping with a supporting U across the middle. You have a mount on top of the bag that only has one weak area and that is the tab hanging over the end.

It doesn't look like it needs much to work as a stand alone mount to the frame.
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I was talking more about supporting the inside part that isn't being supported by the frame. Also if I can do what I have in mind it would make removing the air bag easier in the event I had to change it.

And the spring pads are 0.145" BTW.
 
Wildman said:
I was talking more about supporting the inside part that isn't being supported by the frame. Also if I can do what I have in mind it would make removing the air bag easier in the event I had to change it.

And the spring pads are 0.145" BTW.
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I haven't seen any pictorial representation of the problem that needs a solution.
 
Something like this.

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This gives me something to bolt the stud to and supports the part that is inside the frame.
I did have to move it a little bit inside the frame to give clearance to the nut.
 
OK choices.
Loose about a inch of up travel or 1/2" of WB? With the tire stuffed into the fender where I can barely turn it I'm at 8" between the frame and lower spring pad.

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I think I should move the axle forward 1/2" and see what happens.
Thoughts?

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It’s looking good, I think you’ll appreciate he extra inch of uptravel vs the half inch or so of wheelbase. I saw the bracket, seems more complicated than needed but nothing wrong with it. I would want the bag centered but that’s me.
 
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How will the mud flaps attach? Will cutting the wheel opening more affect that?
 
jjvw said:
How will the mud flaps attach? Will cutting the wheel opening more affect that?
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Mud flaps will mount to the frame with a detachable mount. A piece of square tube slid into another piece that is attached to the frame.

I can't cut the corner armor anymore than I already have.

I fucked up on this part. I should have gotten the mounting plate from Metal Cloak so I might have been able to go back a little more. But it is what it is. And I've already trimmed the rear of the corners so I can't send them back.
 
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