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United Airlines Memes
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fourpointzero
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No doubt about it! It just seems like doom and gloom from what we're fed but the US is safer than its been in 20 years, if Im not mistaken. Still, the information overload / speed isn't always good for us as a whole
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No doubt about it! It just seems like doom and gloom from what we're fed but the US is safer than its been in 20 years, if Im not mistaken. Still, the information overload / speed isn't always good for us as a whole
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Oh yeah, it's total information overload. I make a habit of staying away from news sites and social media as much as possible. You spend to much time on there and before you know it, you think the world is ending!
I've owned a travel company 18 years. United was violated the federal Agreement of Carriage. Thats the tiny print every passenger (and airline) agrees to when buying a ticket. This contract contains passenger rights. This passenger had an assigned seat which means he was not part of overbooking. When overbooked, airlines can deny boarding at the gate; but once a passenger is seated in their assigned seat, they can only be removed for a violation like disrupting the flight. And then, they must be read their rights per the agreement. UA had no lawful cause to remove him.
# This was evidently a doctor who had hospital rounds the next morning. The flight UA offered did not depart until 2pm the following day.
# The 4 employees were evidenyly a replacement crew needed for a later flight.
# The 3 who reluctantly got off evidently received a hotel, meal, and $800 in flight credit.
UA should have kept upping their offer until they got 4 volunteers to accept. They also should have offered a same day flight on another airline or flown their employees on another flight. This will cost UA dearly via a lawsuit and potentially an FAA sanction or fine.
Know your rights when you fly.
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That's interesting. I didn't know that once you were seated, they can't ask you to leave for over crowding reasons. Learn something new every day I guess. I figured because it's their property, they can ask anyone to leave at anytime, provided taht satisfactory accommodations are made. But I still think the whole situation was handled poorly by UA and the passenger regardless of the rules.
Passenger should have peacefully left the plane and taken up grievances at the gate. Upon learning that he is a doctor and had patients to see, UA should have at least attempted to find another passenger who could wait, or gotten him on a flight that would have allowed him to make it to work on time...since his work involves people's lives and well being.
In will be interesting to see the results when all the facts come out. Here is UA's Contract:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx?Mobile=1
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx?Mobile=1
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The guy acted like a child and got treated like one. Sucks the flight was overbooked but he should be embarrassed for acting like a baby. Im certain UA didnt just send cops down thw aisle yanking people from their seats. If I was told to leave I wouldn't be happy and there would definitely be discussions on compensation, etc but I wouldn't act like that and suffer the consequences. As with many things we see in the media, people need to realize we are responsible for our actions. Act like a responsible adult please.
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Blackout
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Yep. If I was him I would file a lawsuit. I'd be willing to bet they'd settle out of course for at least several million.
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fourpointzero
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Sometimes a man just gets tired of bending over. If he had just walked off, you would never have heard about it and UA would keeping screwing people illegally. Jeepers have all have a little 'rebel' in us. I was taught to "stand your ground when you are right and the law is on your side". As a travel professional, I applaud the guy for standing up for passenger rights.
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You have rights to someone else's property? It's in the fine print you agree to when you book and pay for your ticket. The conditions are clear and even though we do t read them, it's printed for situations like this. I'm sorry as much as we all think we should get rights, we actually don't. Sad but true reality
In addition to your rights per the "Conditions of Carriage" contract, airline passengers are also protected by the DOT's "Passenger Bill of Rights" originally formalized in 2009 and strengthened in 2011. Worth noting...
https://www.transportation.gov/brie...rtation-expands-airline-passenger-protections
Update: UA is now refunding every passenger on the flight, Airport police are being suspended, DOT is investigating, 4 Senators are getting involved, and UA has started negotiating with surgeon Dr. David Dao's attorneys.
http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2017/...ers-from-controversial-overbooked-flight.html
Yeah. We have rights...
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Exactly, it states very clearly what happens when bumping is needed. Airlines are allowed to give up to $400 for a short delay and $800 for a slightly longer delay. Unfortunately no one took it so people were bumped and given the $800. I'm sorry but in no where there does it say to ignore airport TSA officers and make a scene.
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