Help with potential big build

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very helpful to know. Teraflex didn't even hint at that. They just said "semi-float" would be better for a daily driver and that they recommend a long arm. Didn't feel very good after talking on the phone. Like he didn't give a shit.

Can you get RockJock 44's for the rear as well? Currie's site shows 44 in the front and 60 in the rear.

Yes, they make a RockJock 44 for the front and read if I recall. They are high pinion axles too, which is a nice added bonus.

TeraFlex would do that. All they want to do is sell you something, they don't actually care beyond that.

You aren't going to be able to put any Dana 60 on there without a lot of modification. Namely the Dana 60s they are selling you are much wider axles. While you could probably make a factory shock and spring style setup work, you'll need a new steering setup and at this point it makes a lot more sense to go with coilovers since you could actually fit them with the wider axles.
 
That’s possibly just your broken wheel.
I would, as Steve Miller says “take the money and run”. Fix what needs to be fixed and just drive it as is. Unless there are some really cool off road trails near the DMZ.
Take the rest of the money and have a nice vacation on Jeju.
the insurance system here is different. Take the money and run would mean giving the car up and buying a JK. I don't even get to touch the money. Money goes to shop after shop tells insurance what needs to be fixed. I am not a mechanic but it didn't seem like it needed new axles. the front looked fine by my eye. and i assumed the rear could just be repaired. BUT he said he can get two new built axles from insurance and fix the body damage.
 
Yes, they make a RockJock 44 for the front and read if I recall. They are high pinion axles too, which is a nice added bonus.

TeraFlex would do that. All they want to do is sell you something, they don't actually care beyond that.

You aren't going to be able to put any Dana 60 on there without a lot of modification. Namely the Dana 60s they are selling you are much wider axles. While you could probably make a factory shock and spring style setup work, you'll need a new steering setup and at this point it makes a lot more sense to go with coilovers since you could actually fit them with the wider axles.
that's helpful to know. I will have to track it down or make some calls I guess because they don't have it listed on Currie Enterprises. I just saw high pinion Dana 60 with stock width.

https://www.currieenterprises.com/tj-lj-bolt-in-axle-packages
 
I think one of the things holding me back is that this car is really special and rare in Korea. If I end up joining in the Jeep meets, I'll have one of the most interesting and special cars there. Surrounded by a bunch of brand new JL's covered with ugly graphics. I see a TJ once a month..maybe.
If you’re interested in keeping it by all means keep it.

the Koreans I dealt with had an odd way of fixing things. Wasn’t exactly up to OSHA standards. But it the end it was close enough to pass.

one of the Jeeps I bought had a hard rollover. Ended up with a wobble like you posted. All I did was change out the axle shaft after I made sure the axle housing was still true.

The TJ is the perfect Jeep. Still light and nimble. Can tackle the muddy trails they have in Korea.

without all the electrical nuances the newer JK and JLs have.

is the insurance like in the US where you can take the money and do what you with it. Or do you have to fix the body damage?
 
Yes, they make a RockJock 44 for the front and read if I recall. They are high pinion axles too, which is a nice added bonus.

TeraFlex would do that. All they want to do is sell you something, they don't actually care beyond that.

You aren't going to be able to put any Dana 60 on there without a lot of modification. Namely the Dana 60s they are selling you are much wider axles. While you could probably make a factory shock and spring style setup work, you'll need a new steering setup and at this point it makes a lot more sense to go with coilovers since you could actually fit them with the wider axles.
Is this the one you're talking about Chris?

https://www.currieenterprises.com/currie-44-jeep-tj-jl-xj-axle
 
If you’re interested in keeping it by all means keep it.

the Koreans I dealt with had an odd way of fixing things. Wasn’t exactly up to OSHA standards. But it the end it was close enough to pass.

one of the Jeeps I bought had a hard rollover. Ended up with a wobble like you posted. All I did was change out the axle shaft after I made sure the axle housing was still true.

The TJ is the perfect Jeep. Still light and nimble. Can tackle the muddy trails they have in Korea.

without all the electrical nuances the newer JK and JLs have.

is the insurance like in the US where you can take the money and do what you with it. Or do you have to fix the body damage?
lot of hack jobs. I don't trust anyone to work on it..but in this case, I don't have an option. Before the accident, I even thought I'll buy a lift and try to do it myself but regulations won't allow it because of all the paperwork that has to be approved by the government.

I really don't believe my car needs those new axles at all. But if I want to go off roading, I will certainly need them.

Insurance is totally different. If I choose to fix the car, I will never see the money. Shop deals with insurance - says "X Y Z need to be replaced and it costs $XXX". Insurance pays the money to the shop and the shop fixes. In this case, my wife told the shop owner we want cash left over so he said he can get 35k from insurance, get the axles, fix the body, wheels and tires and give us $10k. This is illegal so he would have to give us the cash under the table after all repairs are complete. But seeing as how I want the lift with 35's and fenders and.....that 10k might just go right back into Jeep. Other option is where insurance settles and gives you cash straight up (taking the vehicle) but the settlement is like 30% or something deducted from the cost it takes to fix the vehicle. Either way, it's a win win for me.
 
lot of hack jobs. I don't trust anyone to work on it..but in this case, I don't have an option. Before the accident, I even thought I'll buy a lift and try to do it myself but regulations won't allow it because of all the paperwork that has to be approved by the government.

I really don't believe my car needs those new axles at all. But if I want to go off roading, I will certainly need them.

Insurance is totally different. If I choose to fix the car, I will never see the money. Shop deals with insurance - says "X Y Z need to be replaced and it costs $XXX". Insurance pays the money to the shop and the shop fixes. In this case, my wife told the shop owner we want cash left over so he said he can get 35k from insurance, get the axles, fix the body, wheels and tires and give us $10k. This is illegal so he would have to give us the cash under the table after all repairs are complete. But seeing as how I want the lift with 35's and fenders and.....that 10k might just go right back into Jeep. Other option is where insurance settles and gives you cash straight up (taking the vehicle) but the settlement is like 30% or something deducted from the cost it takes to fix the vehicle. Either way, it's a win win for me.
Could you have the extras already installed by the shop? New fenders lift?

Sounds like you should be good with 31” tires and a 2” lift. Nothing crazy and still keeps you in the power band. Especially if he’ll install lockers

If I remember correctly, Koreans are very much bonded to their word. Didn’t really have to many issues with trust there
 
Being that no government is tapped into social media, you should be O.K.

Unless you’ve already been to Jeju...🤔
lol I actually thought about that. think I'll take my chances with it. If you see any Korean government websites, you'll know English isn't their strong suit. Been to Jeju and all over the place. Really care a lot more about this car than I do having a vacation.
 
That’s it!
If I opted for the Currie Dana 60 would that be bolt in or would it require modifications and cause more trouble? There doesn't seem to be a huge difference in price between the two when adding on the selections to the 44.
 
Given how few "off-road shops" I trust in the U.S., I wouldn't trust any Korean "off-road shop" one fucking bit.

Having said that, let me explain all the options you gave and my thoughts on them:

Option A: He will fix the body damage, install new axles front and rear, either Teraflex Dana 60's or Currie's axles with my chosen gear and ARB lockers front and rear, new wheels and tires, possibly a lift and give me $10,000 of that cash.

Why does it need Dana 60s? That's completely senseless unless you're going to run 37s, which is also completely senseless unless you're going to stretch the thing.

Option B: I can take $25,000 and be done with the car. No good TJ's on the market here. Not a single TJ Rubicon for sale currently in the whole country. I see like one TJ per month...maybe) I thought maybe we could use that money to get a JK Rubicon with 3.6L?

This is the option I would take. It's a TJ in Korea. Getting parts is going to be expensive as hell and next to impossible for a TJ. I would go with something newer at this point. A 3.6 JK Rubicon would be a fine choice.

OP, this is the most sensible post in here. In my opinion, that rear axle housing on your Jeep is probably bent now. If it was impacted by another car at speed hard enough to crack the wheel and slide down your Jeep like that the housing will be tweaked, MOST likely.

So, what they SHOULD do is check if the axle shafts are bent, then perform an alignment and see IF it is bent. The alignment machine will see a bent rear housing.

If you Keep the Jeep, I would strongly advise ONLY bolt on parts. So the shop has a decent shot at getting it right.

I say No, to metalcloak fenders. And No, to long arm suspension.

Go Currie 44's front and rear. And a I would stay with a short arm lift kit that they can bolt in. 3-4" suspension and Maybe a 1" body lift if that's allowed there.
 
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If I opted for the Currie Dana 60 would that be bolt in or would it require modifications and cause more trouble? There doesn't seem to be a huge difference in price between the two when adding on the selections to the 44.
It would require A LOT of modifications and it won’t just bolt in.
 
OP, this is the most sensible post in here. In my opinion, that rear axle housing on your Jeep is probably bent now. If it was impacted by another car at speed hard enough to crack the wheel and slide down your Jeep like that the housing will be tweaked, MOST likely.

So, what they SHOULD do is check if the axle shafts are bent, then perform an alignment and see IF it is bent. The alignment machine will see a bent rear housing.

If you Keep the Jeep, I would strongly advise ONLY bolt on parts. So the shop has a decent shot at getting it right.

I say No, to metalcloak fenders. And No, to long arm suspension.

Go Currie 44's front and rear. And a I would stay with a short arm lift kit that they can bolt in. 3-4" suspension and Maybe a 1" body lift if that's allowed there.
thank you for your input.

Checking carefully would be the logical thing to do. But the shop promised me two built axles so I'll take it.

Remember I would like to go with 35" tires and that regulations are very strict about tire coverage. Genright was really nice and they gave me a great shipping quote for all the fenders and inner liners but it requires modification that can't be undone and the car will never pass inspection. Need something to cover and want something high quality. Before the accident, I was thinking about Bushwacker flat flares after a lift but that was before I needed fenders too. With the Sahara flares, it barely covers the 30" tires. it's right on the line and passed inspection last month. The good thing is that I won't have inspection for another two years but I need to get it legal still because it could get reported or if police see it, there could potentially be issues.
 
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