2021 PNW4WDA Trail Jam

DaveF

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OK @Wildman ... as requested :)

So along with my club the Timber Tamers, we (my wife and I) attended and hosted at the Trail Jam event this year in Naches Washington. We arrived Sunday last week, and got home today.

The first three days we pre-ran the three trails assigned to us, Naches, Manastash, and Rocky Saddle.

Monday, day one up Naches was fairly interesting, one of our members in an XJ started having leaky front axle seals, and when he opened them up at camp, he found a missing ring gear tooth in his diff... yay. Ended up fixing the first on site at the campground Tuesday and was able to run on the missing gear the rest of the week (although he had issues Tuesday). Going up the trail we already knew the west side of the trail was still closed, but when we got up to the boy scout sign at the top we found a massive mud bog just after it, meaning that since this is supposed to be an easy trail, that was now the turn around point.

Tuesday, we ran up the trail with some great guys from Cascade 4x4 club. Early in the day our trail leader (I'd been running tail gunner as the trail leader and I both had GMRS so could stay in touch) ended up turning around with a mysterious clunking sound in the rear of his JK. Dan from the cascade group turned around with him as escort. Not 3 minutes later, our XJ once again had issues and couldn't keep his Jeep in low range, so he too turned around and joined the other 2 headed back to camp... so 8 was down to 5. This also meant I had to take over for our crew, creating a GPS track to follow later in the week and getting some great tips/notes from John from Cascade 4x4 along the way. About the time we hit funny rock, one of the Cascade group's TJ's started having overheating problems with the radiator they'd installed the day before. She was able to get it to cool off each time it over heated and we continued to try to nurse her down the hill until shortly after we hit the service road on the way back when her new radiator explosively burst... with a new 7 inch crack along the top of it. Now down to 4 sigh. We left her TJ there, with another of our group to watch over it, and the 3 remaining vehicles went back to camp. I then followed her and another of her team back up the hill as they took a pickup/trailer up the service road where we loaded the TJ up and 3 hours later had everyone back safe at camp.

Wednesday our whole crew was back in action as we proceeded to pre-run our rocky saddle trail run. This was the least eventful day so far as 7 hours later all 5 of us managed to come back to camp in one piece!

Thursday was the first day of runs with the participants. We hosted the early Naches run, where we had I think 13 participant vehicles that we led up the trail. We decided to take them through the rabbit holes to start (avoiding the seriously tight section), eventually making our way up to the boy scout sign where we stopped for lunch. We came back down the road and ended up taking some of the more adventurous (and LJ or smaller) vehicles back through the rabbit trails, this time spotting them through the tightest section. No break downs... just a great day out wheeling.

Friday we took 11 rigs up manastash. We took the milk creek trail up to five fingers (which has 7 now) and let those who wanted to try the different hill climbs before then heading up upper woodpecker. After stopping for a photo op of mount Rainier, we headed to funny rock where I spotted about half the group up the easy line and the other half opted for the bypass before continuing through the trail. The only issue that day was right at the otter slide as we were lining up those who wanted to climb it vs those who wanted to go around, we found the zj in the group had lost the upper bolt to his passenger rear shock. Luckily we found the bolt, and after bending his shock mount back into place we were able to reinstall the shock fairly quickly and continue on. This was the first time I'd been trail leader for something like this and I found I enjoyed it... several of the participants gave thanks and good feedback, so I guess I did OK :)

Saturday... Rocky Saddle. We had a much smaller group Saturday, only two of us hosts, and 4 participant vehicles. We were doing good until about a third of the way through the trail when we had to stop and replace a missing upper track bar bolt in a JK that was in the group, luckily I found a 'close enough' bolt in my bolt bag. Moving on, about half way through the trail, we stopped and our groups trail leader once again heard something strange from the back of his JK... turns out, he'd completely ripped the driver side rear upper control arm mounts off of the axle. We removed the arm, I pulled in front of him and since we didn't have a welder, we just moved slowly on as he nursed his Jeep along the trail. On two of the steeper (loose shale rocks etc) inclines I strapped him to my Jeep and pulled him up so he wouldn't have to put too much power to his rear axle. We were nearly down to the service roads once again, thinking we'd avoided major issues as the JK was still moving ok, when one of the participant vehicles cracked his main engine pully nearly in half. After some discussion, we managed to pull the belts and zip tie the pully remains out of the way enough that he could run the vehicle for a minute or two at a time before over heating (he'd lost water pump, power steering, etc and it was around 95 degrees). I pulled him up a couple of hills, but luckily after that it was mostly down hill. I ran ahead of him as he coasted down the hill to watch for oncoming vehicles of which there were actually 2 groups which I managed to get to the side of the road before he coasted past them, avoiding him having to stop. Once he'd coasted most of the way down, we left his jeep, with our damaged JK to watch over it, while I drove him back to the camp to get his truck/trailer so we could go get the vehicle. Hit the trail at 8am, back to camp just after 5pm.


Over all, Awesome week, met tons of great people, and at the end of the day, we got everyone safely up and down the mountain. I met with @tombicon a few times, loaned some sockets to Carl Jantz LOL, and got to meet @Wildman as well as one other forum member who's name I have thoroughly forgotten!

through all that, the only problem with my LJ was some movement in my upper trac bar joint, but not enough to stop me from completing all I needed to!

Couple quick videos here:
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And some pics... I didn't end up taking many :/

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Thanks Dave. Sounds like you all had a great week and while eventful nothing major.
It was good meeting you and Tomicon and had a blast chatting with you both. Hope to hit some trails with you soon.
 
Were you there all week or at least Thur-Sun morning?

No just Thursday afternoon/evening. Left around 7PM.
I haven't been to a Trail Jamboree for 8 years so I'd stopped by to visit with folks I hadn't seen for a while and just visit.
 
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I didn't take many pics.
I'm learning and growing.
Day 1
Arrived almost late to the trailhead, where a WA state forum member had "snuck" me in his group, as I was originally signed up to do light duty trails (wife was originally going to come), but tried to get to tougher trails since my wife couldn't make it.
@steelhd was able to add me to his group.
Thanks Brian. (Sorry I made you look bad)
Ok, here's the dumbshit move of the day.
1st, when I pulled in late, there was Carl Jantz right in front of me in the super jeep.
That wasn't bad, I kinda know Carl, as he built a Dana 44 for me about 20 years ago and I paid him 1 month at a time for a year until the axle was paid off, and, that was an arrangement he agreed to cause I was poor and he's a cool dude, so he worked w me.
So it was nice to play catch up with him for a bit.
However, who shows the fuck up to a gun fight w no bullets?
Jes@% Fu@$%& C$#@!.....
I glanced at my fuel gauge and had a freaking 1/4 tank.
WTF?
Talk about some stupid, self inflicted wounds!
It did all work out, as my buddy who was in the group w me loaned me his 5 gallon can full, which I emptied into the tank, then Carl transfered 5 gallons from his onboard 43 gallons 😲 into a spare 5 gallon can that I added to the tank.
Tha drive went flawlessly, the jeep performing perfectly.
It was a very satisfying day after the no "bullets" start.
Day 2
We met up at the meeting point early and w a full tank of fuel.
Now we're talking, and it's gonna be a great day. Drive probably 20 miles thru beautiful country to get to the trailhead.
The trail is little rattlesnake, and it earns its name.
My TJ was measured quickly before I arrived to ensure it would fit the trail (it did), and to get to the trailhead was to drive thru a short grass field into an opening into the forest.
This trail is so tight there is no turn around, don't get stuck, don't break.
I'm the 2nd jeep in.
Within 1 block of the entry, I'm wondering what I've signed up for, as this is absolutely the tightest trail I've ever driven.
That ain't the worst part, yet.
All of a sudden, out of nowhere, and with no indication its going to happen, something in the front end starts "clicking".
I'm in 3rd gear, crawling in 4low (4-1) really not even noticing the speedometer move at all, so very slow.
The clicking sounded like a u-joint was dry and about to break.
Man, what the heck. We had no issues the day before, none. And, I crawled under the jeep after the run the night before, everything looked, felt great.
So, here I am on the tightest trail ever, most technical skill required, and I'm thinking the jeeps about to let go and strand me in a nightmare...
I stopped and looked at every damn thing I could think of and couldn't see any issue, problem.
Ok, well fuck it. I'm just gonna ride this one till she bucks me off!
Three plus miles I thought something was going to break at any minute, and fuck all of us.
It didn't happen!
We made it out w 5 jeeps (started w 16) before someone got so stuck it took about an hour to clear him.
so we sat on a gravel road and had lunch while waiting.
After everyone cleared the trail and had a bite, it was time to go.
There was a plan for a trail host to hang back w me cause I didn't think I could drive over 5 mph, or shit was gonna go bang.
So it's time to go, I start the jeep, cautiously gently let out the clutch, and, WTF.
No freaking clicking noise that you could almost feel, it was so loud.
Most of the drive back was down hill, so I just coasted until I needed power, then I'd slip into 3rd and gently go.
Prior to this the clicking was so bad I just assumed something would break before the trail ended, and there was no way the jeep was driving us back to camp.
I assumed we'd be heading out for the truck and trailer.
The damn jeep drove the 20 plus miles to camp like I just imagined the problem.
I didn't.
Anyway, the trail was killer and I'm definitely going back.
Later that night Jantz came by our little camp area and we helped him pull his wheel spacers as he was running little rattlesnake next day.
Day 3
I chose not to go put w the club run, as I felt the jeep was a liability, and I didn't want to risk breaking and holding up a large group.
My friend, our campsite neighbor, and I decided to "rouge" and go mess around on our own.
If the jeep breaks, both other guys are aware of the issue and are willing to go play anyway.
So we do.
I drive it hard, hit funny rocks and moon rocks.
I drive the jeep in places I'm sure the jeep is capable, but I have no right driving here until I have more serious seat time.
Anyway, I tested both the jeep, and myself.
I almost rolled the jeep over backwards, or at least it felt that way.
I tried a all rock hill climb I had no business trying.
I've NEVER been in,on a motor vehicle that was that vertical.
Holy ripped center of the seat, batman!
The front hopped twice, and both front tires lifted a foot or better in the air! Thought for a moment she might flip over backwards.
I've got a crappy video from someone, and if I can send it I will.
So I played on the rocks for a bit and away we went, in one freaking piece!
On the way out, we goofed off and somehow I tore the front pass brake line and lost my brakes.
That ened the day. I drove back to camp about 15-20 miles in 4 low, 5th gear.
About 15 mph. If I let off the gas, I could stop via e-brake in quick order.
I made it back to camp safe, and that was day 3.
Thank you PNW4WDA for a killer event.
I had never heard of it before, and hope to include it in my life every year from here on out.
Special thanks to @Wildman for mentioning this event in a thread we were chatting it.
It was nice to meet you Rick and hope to wheel together once your rig is done.
Thanks also to @steelhd for pushing me via the forum to get off my
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ass and get tickets.
It was nice to see and chat with @DaveF also, he's a great guy and he's quite encouraging.
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Nobody made anyone look bad. If I didn't give you shit about that I would have been required to surrender my man card. :)

I'm glad Karl drives a 4x4 tanker truck because we REALLY didn't want to send you back to camp.
It sure was a great time and I'm already thinking about next year. Four days of "disconnect" from the rat race to some of the most beautiful country around, excellent, friendly people, good times!!!
 
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Hope to see you there.
Maybe by then we'll have had an opportunity to meet at reiter or some such, if @B00mb00m invites us and I get an actual notification.
No need to wait for @B00mb00m lol, you can go any time and invite us!

I'll be there on Saturday already, doing trail work in the morning and wheeling in the afternoon.
 
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I was able to prerun the trails then ride along with others. Not a big deal since I've been over those trails many times. Parts should be ordered tonight but am torn between converting to something else or doing a full Currectlync refresh.
 
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