Will this Chinese Dana 44 locker fit my Dana 35?

deadbeat son said:
Don't get me wrong, I agree wholeheartedly that no limited slip can compare to a locker when a wheel on that axle is off the ground. However, I disagree with your premise that an open diff is as effective as a limited slip in maintaining traction and forward momentum in difficult conditions when both wheels are on the ground.
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Having recently replaced my rear Rubicon locker with an ARB, I can tell from experience that a LSD does provide a fair amount of traction over an open diff. To make up some numbers, let's say a Rubicon LSD provides 25% more traction than open. It's no comparison to a locker, but it isn't insignificant.
 
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deadbeat son said:
Don't get me wrong, I agree wholeheartedly that no limited slip can compare to a locker when a wheel on that axle is off the ground. However, I disagree with your premise that an open diff is as effective as a limited slip in maintaining traction and forward momentum in difficult conditions when both wheels are on the ground.
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I don't recall advancing that premise? What I said is that particular video doesn't show a TJ doing anything I wouldn't do without issue on straight open diffs.

Something I've said numerous times on this site that contradicts what many others preach is that my preferred mode was always open diffs, lockers only after getting stuck. Now, I never got into the advanced type of wheeling that would render this approach un-adviseable, however what's shown in that video is something well within what I'd roll over without any hesitation on open diffs. When a TJ has as much wheel contact as that one does, it's been my expereince that it's not stopping irrespective of what's happening inside the pumpkin.

Is there a place where a limited slip is more effective than open diffs, I'm sure there is, we just didn't see it in that video.
 
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jjvw said:
Having recently replaced my rear Rubicon locker with an ARB, I can tell from experience that a LSD does provide a fair about of traction over an open diff. To make up some numbers, let's say Rubicon LSD provides 25% more traffic traction than open. It's no comparison to a locker, bit it isn't insignificant.
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I don't recall the numbers at all, but a truetrac is also supposed to supply a higher amount of torque to the wheel with more traction than the typical clutch pack LSD, not exactly sure how but I remember reading about it when I swapped in a used TT to my old Dana 30.

You can also grind down the ends of the shafts a bit and pack the clutch type LSD over spec with friction and steel shims. Did that originally on my 8.8 and it worked pretty damn good for a LSD, though a bit dangerous on wet, slippery pavement if you drive like a dumb teenager...
 
Westtown Willy said:
I don't recall advancing that premise? What I said is that particular video doesn't show a TJ doing anything I wouldn't do without issue on straight open diffs.

Something I've said numerous times on this site that contradicts what many others preach is that my preferred mode was always open diffs, lockers only after getting stuck. Now, I never got into the advanced type of wheeling that would render this approach un-adviseable, however what's shown in that video is something well within what I'd roll over without any hesitation on open diffs. When a TJ has as much wheel contact as that one does, it's been my expereince that it's not stopping irrespective of what's happening inside the pumpkin.

Is there a place where a limited slip is more effective than open diffs, I'm sure there is, we just didn't see it in that video.
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Fair enough. Although I inferred it from your post, that doesn't necessarily mean you implied it.
 
jjvw said:
Having recently replaced my rear Rubicon locker with an ARB, I can tell from experience that a LSD does provide a fair amount of traction over an open diff. To make up some numbers, let's say a Rubicon LSD provides 25% more traction than open. It's no comparison to a locker, but it isn't insignificant.
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A proper distinction needs to be made between gear driven and clutch type LSDs.
 
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Westtown Willy said:
Something I've said numerous times on this site that contradicts what many others preach is that my preferred mode was always open diffs, lockers only after getting stuck. Now, I never got into the advanced type of wheeling that would render this approach un-advisable,
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As long as you qualify the difficulty level, contradict away.
 
mrblaine said:
Still think I have no experience?
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I was asking if you had experience with the Chinese locker this thread was all about, that's all. You didn't answer and went off about Yukon for some reason? I was probably very unclear when I asked. I didn't try to say Yukon was great or anything, just that you have said they aren't any more prone to failure on the trail than any of the other options out there, at least that's what I remember. Have you seen the Chinese ARB clone or know of anybody that runs them, the locker in post #1?
 
pagrey said:
And there you go, buy the shit I like or you could die based on no experience.
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Lol, wow. Ok. Put cheap unknown things in your axle. No skin off my back. I have an opinion based on personal experience.


What have you done except mock those for not having the experience you don’t have either? Not sure how you have contributed at all other than play devil’s advocate for? Not sure your reasoning.
 
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Rick Flair said:
I have an opinion based on personal experience.
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Rick Flair said:
I have zero experience with the China lockers you asking about
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This thread is about Chinese lockers, which you have no personal experience with. I'm asking questions to find people that do have experience with them. Sometimes people don't like being clear and direct so I ask a few different times and in different ways so eventually you get a clear answer. Some people don't want to come right out and say you'll be fine with a Chinese locker because they'd prefer you'd get something else based on who knows what. That's fine, but that's why I ask.
 
someguysjeep said:
haha to dam funny i really had no freakin clue the ARB was Australian made.

IDK about the west coast but over here in the mud and snow you really don't need or want more than the LS on your DD/weekend toy. and they put about 2 million of them out around here in many production vehicles just for that reason
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Would be really interested if you could expand on your point re LSD vs lockers. Not much snow in UK, but lots of rain, lots of mud and not many big rocks for driving over.
 
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UKTJ said:
Would be really interested if you could expand on your point re LSD vs lockers. Not much snow in UK, but lots of rain, lots of mud and not many big rocks for driving over.
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I'll expand. Most people don't need lockers and will be perfectly happy with a (gear driven) LSD. And those that do need lockers will have little use for an LSD.
 
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