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I just picked up a 2021 f150 super crew 4x4, with the 5.0. I worked for ford for over 20 years so I have a few parts connections if needed. I wanted the naturally aspirated motor. I didn’t want to find the turbo is unavailable in 10 years. I replaced my 06 super crew 5.4 with 237000 miles on it. Fuel economy on my trip to Colorado 21-22 mpg around town here for the past month is reading 18. I get less in Long Beach area, could be driving habits or fuel. I bought it in Colorado with 17000 miles and saved about 20k from new. It is a high option XLT fx4 model. The tow capacity is at least 8k tows my LJ on 16’ trailer now problem. About 10 mpg Round trip going up to the rubicon and back with a side trip up the road to Yosemite and back down.

Sounds like a good deal. That's why I might end up buying used. Used vehicles aren't selling right now, so might be a good time to buy. I miss my 2011 F150 with the V8. That was fun to drive.

Turbo is fun an all. Just don't know if I can trust it long term vs. the less complicated V8.
 
17’ f150 3.5 eco boost with the 10sp, gas mileage decreased a bit once I put on 33” BFGs to around 17 in the winter. Good torque, easy on the Highway, no issues @75k. Love the interior space in the crew cab over a midsize truck
 
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Sounds like a good deal. That's why I might end up buying used. Used vehicles aren't selling right now, so might be a good time to buy. I miss my 2011 F150 with the V8. That was fun to drive.

Turbo is fun an all. Just don't know if I can trust it long term vs. the less complicated V8.
If you purchase under factory 36/36000 warranty you can purchase the ford extended service plan.
 
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If you purchase under factory 36/36000 warranty you can purchase the ford extended service plan.

Mine came with a ford esp, I just renewed it to 120k miles through one of the online dealers

There’s some nice 19’-20 models (last year of the previous gen) with less than 50k miles for under 35k
 
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My wife needs a vehicle in the next 12 months, and she's good with getting a truck as long as it is a new. I think we will probably get a 2024 Tacoma (TRD Off-Road package w/o most of the frills) or a Chevy 1500 (LZ0 and pretty light on the options too).
 
My wife needs a vehicle in the next 12 months, and she's good with getting a truck as long as it is a new. I think we will probably get a 2024 Tacoma (TRD Off-Road package w/o most of the frills) or a Chevy 1500 (LZ0 and pretty light on the options too).

Test drive a Tacoma and a Silverado back to back. The seating position couldn't be more different.
 
NTF strikes every few months.

I have a loaded 2018 CC/LB Colorado Z-71 I bought new.....IIRC, I paid around $37k for it. It's got 70~ish thousand miles on it, and has averaged 20mpg over its lifetime. Chevy's decided that midsized truck owners no longer need a 6' bed, so if/when it gets replaced, it won't be with a new Colorado.

Problem for me is that I need 4WD and at least a 6' bed. That leaves the Taco and the Frontier as my only midsized options. I won't own another Nissan, so that leaves the Taco, and man Toyota's proud of those things. Going to a full-sized truck means a Ram, and while they're great trucks, I'm at $60k to duplicate what I have now, and get no better mileage (and have to deal with driving and parking a full-size truck).

I drive maybe 5-6,000 miles a year in the truck anymore (TJ and company vehicle as well), so my Colorado will easily and economically last another 10 years. I can't see spending the money on something that doesn't gain me anything.
 
I have a 22 F150 XLT FX4 SuperCrew 3.5 10 speed that I ordered new with every option you can get on an XLT. Had it two years and about 24k miles now. Love it so far. No major issues. The 3.5 is stupid powerful. The 18/23 estimate is dead on in my case. If you get one check with Grainger Ford online for the esp. They have the best prices that I've found.

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If I was in the market for a new pickup and could go with a mid size truck, it would probably be a Gladiator, most likely a diesel Rubicon. But that's not happening.

I've got a 4th Gen Ram (2014) with the 5.7 and 8 speed that has been a great truck, besides the leak I've been fighting.

My last work truck was a 2018 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 and 6 speed. That was a terrible truck. The fuel pump went out at 14k miles due to dust/silt getting through the capless system (no seal on the door or trim). It would cake to the filler but you couldn't really wipe it off so the nozzle just pushed it into the tank. From there on the truck was nothing but problems. The engine was rebuilt twice by the dealer for failing lifters . Several of the company trucks had this problem. Then the transmission was serviced and promptly failed around 100k miles. We've probably had 20+ of those trucks do the same thing. So much that our shop guys (they don't do our maintenance, just the initial build out and refits) no longer have people get the transmission flushed and serviced. Just drained and refilled. It's been 90% consistent with a service that the trans would fail. All of the issues happen up to 140k miles (and only like 4.5 years) when we turn them in. I used to be a Chevy guy but doubt I will ever own another one after that experience.

My current work truck is a 2023 F150 3.5 10speed. Only at 18k miles so far but it's been great. It's leaps and bounds more comfortable than the Silverado. I am a little surprised at the vibrations for a such a small engine and a new truck, but it's not enough to bother me. There's a few other things that I don't like as far as what I need it to do for work, but those are completely unrelated to normal person truck use. Lastly, every now and then I tow with it , nothing crazy heavy, a 20' aluminum river boat, a SxS on a trailer, or a 10' enclosed trailer. It's not great at towing! The fuel mileage drops tremendously when towing, especially over the mountain passes. So bad that I thought I could make it across the pass and get fuel on the other side but had to make an emergency stop watching my fuel gauge go down as I drove up the mountain! If I was in the market for a 1/2 ton, I would have to strongly consider the F150. Some of these in our company have the 5.0 and people seem to really like those as well.

Lastly, my father-in-law (and neighbor) has a 2014 Tundra with the 5.7 and I believe 6 speed, but it might be a 5 speed. I've driven it a bit over the years, and hate it. I'm a firm believer that the only people that buy Tacomas (my mom has a 2020 Tacoma and it's also awful to drive) and Tundras have not driven anything else and just want a Toyota, which is fine if that's what you want. The Toyotas get terrible mileage, feel way bigger than they are, and visibility is awful. The huge benefit to those trucks where I'm at is they hold their value because the PNW loves Toyota. I don't get it, but to each their own.
 
If I was in the market for a new pickup and could go with a mid size truck, it would probably be a Gladiator, most likely a diesel Rubicon. But that's not happening.

I've got a 4th Gen Ram (2014) with the 5.7 and 8 speed that has been a great truck, besides the leak I've been fighting.

My last work truck was a 2018 Silverado 1500 with the 5.3 and 6 speed. That was a terrible truck. The fuel pump went out at 14k miles due to dust/silt getting through the capless system (no seal on the door or trim). It would cake to the filler but you couldn't really wipe it off so the nozzle just pushed it into the tank. From there on the truck was nothing but problems. The engine was rebuilt twice by the dealer for failing lifters . Several of the company trucks had this problem. Then the transmission was serviced and promptly failed around 100k miles. We've probably had 20+ of those trucks do the same thing. So much that our shop guys (they don't do our maintenance, just the initial build out and refits) no longer have people get the transmission flushed and serviced. Just drained and refilled. It's been 90% consistent with a service that the trans would fail. All of the issues happen up to 140k miles (and only like 4.5 years) when we turn them in. I used to be a Chevy guy but doubt I will ever own another one after that experience.

My current work truck is a 2023 F150 3.5 10speed. Only at 18k miles so far but it's been great. It's leaps and bounds more comfortable than the Silverado. I am a little surprised at the vibrations for a such a small engine and a new truck, but it's not enough to bother me. There's a few other things that I don't like as far as what I need it to do for work, but those are completely unrelated to normal person truck use. Lastly, every now and then I tow with it , nothing crazy heavy, a 20' aluminum river boat, a SxS on a trailer, or a 10' enclosed trailer. It's not great at towing! The fuel mileage drops tremendously when towing, especially over the mountain passes. So bad that I thought I could make it across the pass and get fuel on the other side but had to make an emergency stop watching my fuel gauge go down as I drove up the mountain! If I was in the market for a 1/2 ton, I would have to strongly consider the F150. Some of these in our company have the 5.0 and people seem to really like those as well.

Lastly, my father-in-law (and neighbor) has a 2014 Tundra with the 5.7 and I believe 6 speed, but it might be a 5 speed. I've driven it a bit over the years, and hate it. I'm a firm believer that the only people that buy Tacomas (my mom has a 2020 Tacoma and it's also awful to drive) and Tundras have not driven anything else and just want a Toyota, which is fine if that's what you want. The Toyotas get terrible mileage, feel way bigger than they are, and visibility is awful. The huge benefit to those trucks where I'm at is they hold their value because the PNW loves Toyota. I don't get it, but to each their own.

GM's 6 speeds were junk for the most part (though I have a very high mileage one that's been treating me well). The 8 speeds are far worse. The 10 speed (same trans as in the Ford) seem solid. I loved my dads 5.3/10 Speed.

3.5's are super impressive power wise. Reliability scares me some but a great truck to drive.

The appeal to me of Toyota is resale, reliability, and they drive like a truck. The new 1/2 ton US trucks ride so soft it's almost crappy.