Best Brakes for 37s?

Ricky433

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Hey All,
I have a rig that’s in need of brake conversion, the stock disc/drum set doesn’t really work.
What are some good options?
 
You should probably ask Blaine directly. He probably wouldn't sell you an upgrade for an axle that shouldn't be running 37" tires. I have no idea what your setup is but I wouldn't order blindly based on what's said here.
Thank you I have dana 44 front/rear
 
Thank you I have dana 44 front/rear
The problem lies with the ball joints (assuming you are still on a TJ 44s). The leverage a 37" has will wear out the ball joint seats to the point a ball joint will fall out.

Otherwise the Vanco Big Brake Kit will stop 37s
 
I have the 17" Black Magic brake kit, its will stop 37's very well. You will go through ball joints faster stock 44 or 30 on 37's, and need to check them and replace as needed. I just did my lowers, under warranty. They were just getting a little loose, no biggie.
 
You should probably ask Blaine directly. He probably wouldn't sell you an upgrade for an axle that shouldn't be running 37" tires. I have no idea what your setup is but I wouldn't order blindly based on what's said here.
Do you ever stop being a fuckwit? The entire reason I make and sell a brake kit for 37's on stock axles is not everyone wheels where they need tires that size, lots of folks are far more delicate than we are when it comes to wheeling and even if they are not delicate, some of them folk drive on the street where it is not only possible but likely some fool with engage them with the need for a panic stop at some point. A big brake kit that works is cheap insurance at that point. I even make one for 40's using all the same logic.
 
I have the 17" Black Magic brake kit, its will stop 37's very well. You will go through ball joints faster stock 44 or 30 on 37's, and need to check them and replace as needed. I just did my lowers, under warranty. They were just getting a little loose, no biggie.
Lowers get loose quickly on any tire size. They are not bad unless they have more than 1/16" vertical play.
 
There are a few "contributors" on this forum that never post anything of value and seem to exist solely to be contrarian. I'm not sure why they hang out, but Its something I've been noticing more and more.

It helps to understand that they are not contrarian to everything, but just to ideas/thoughts from specific members. The auto vs manual thread had a few classic examples.
 
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There are a few "contributors" on this forum that never post anything of value and seem to exist solely to be contrarian. I'm not sure why they hang out, but Its something I've been noticing more and more.
It’s not just this forum. That’s something I’ve not on nearly every message board I’ve ever been on. Someone always wants to play devils advocate.
 
It’s not just this forum. That’s something I’ve not on nearly every message board I’ve ever been on. Someone always wants to play devils advocate.
I'll sometimes play devil's advocate. But I don't die on that hill like some here will do. It's almost like they believe their BS.
 
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I have the 16 inch big brake kit, and recently went up to 37s (knowing very well failure points, need to check often, and how I wheel), and that kit was able to lock up the 37s. I do have a lighter weight tire/wheel setup, which helps as well, but point is, go with the big brake kit (I would now go with 17 if had choice), and Mr. Blaine is very helpful if you have questions as well.
 
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I have the 17" Black Magic brake kit, its will stop 37's very well. You will go through ball joints faster stock 44 or 30 on 37's, and need to check them and replace as needed. I just did my lowers, under warranty. They were just getting a little loose, no biggie.

thank you appreciate the heads up.
 
With any of you who did the big brake kit of 16 or 17, did you convert to a high steer setup? I want to change the stock brakes on my 2006 LJ as i'm converting to coilovers up front and run 37s but i'm wondering about the knuckle that is included in the black magic kit. Can this knuckle be modified to accept high steer or does it include high steer option?

Any feedback is appreciated.
 
With any of you who did the big brake kit of 16 or 17, did you convert to a high steer setup? I want to change the stock brakes on my 2006 LJ as i'm converting to coilovers up front and run 37s but i'm wondering about the knuckle that is included in the black magic kit. Can this knuckle be modified to accept high steer or does it include high steer option?

Any feedback is appreciated.

It does not include a high steer option, the steering arms on all of our brake kits are in the stock location. There is no good way to put high steer on a TJ that doesn't include a shortened trackbar. I don't believe in compromised steering geometry so I don't do anything with our stuff to promote it. The problem lies in the spring being in the way. Anyone that looks at a side view of front suspension with stock upper control arms and long lowers inherently understands that is a less than ideal way to line links up. The same thing happens when you shorten the trackbar that much. It will have bumpsteer and that's annoying.
 
You can, however, have the driver side tie rod link "flipped" so it goes in the knuckle from the top, versus the bottom. That may give you the extra clearance you're looking for. Blaine can even do that for you when ordering. Keep in mind, you'll also have to raise your sway bar brackets (yes plural, because... why would you do only one side?) to accommodate the end link going in from the top. Oh and, conveniently, Blaine sells those too. ;)
 
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You can, however, have the driver side tie rod link "flipped" so it goes in the knuckle from the top, versus the bottom. That may give you the extra clearance you're looking for. Blaine can even do that for you when ordering. Keep in mind, you'll also have to raise your sway bar brackets (yes plural, because... why would you do only one side?) to accommodate the end link going in from the top. Oh and, conveniently, Blaine sells those too. ;)

and this modification creates a pretty decent amount of clearance under the tie-rod.

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