Let's see your front bumpers!

Hi everyone new here, have had my tj for a couple of years and my 2006 has a warn stubby front bumper with a 3 1/2" lift sitting on a new set of 33x12.5-15 cooper stt pro's.

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No. I had 1/4" backing plates made for the mounts. So the mounts are bolted through the bumper and the backing plates. The mount bolt pattern straddles the frame rail ends. You have 6 bolts securing the the 1/4" winch plate to the frame, 4 of which also go through the bumper. Counting on the winch plate to truss/reinforce the bumper if you will, combined with the location of the mounts straddling the frame rail ends to work.

Think it will hold?
Do those D-ring mounts attach to the frame?

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No. I had 1/4" backing plates made for the mounts. So the mounts are bolted through the bumper and the backing plates. The mount bolt pattern straddles the frame rail ends. You have 6 bolts securing the the 1/4" winch plate to the frame, 4 of which also go through the bumper. Counting on the winch plate to truss/reinforce the bumper if you will, combined with the location of the mounts straddling the frame rail ends to work.

Think it will hold?
Probably ok with all that but seeing that will likely make experienced offroaders wary of using it for a serious recovery. I know I would be without knowing anything about it. Grade 8 hardware right?
 
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Probably ok with all that but seeing that will likely make experienced offroaders wary of using it for a serious recovery. I know I would be without knowing anything about it. Grade 8 hardware right?

Yes, all Grade 8. Believe me, it was a battle. For all the time and money I put into this bumper mod I wish I'd just ordered a new bumper (which I know I'm going to end up doing eventually). Live and learn . . . FWIW, the metal shop guy who made the backing plates is a TJ owner too and we discussed the concerns raised by you and 05 Blue about where to locate the mounts to give the stock bumper the best chance of survival. Seems pretty stout to me, but I've never been in a "serious" recovery. Will do my best to avoid . . .
 
Yes, all Grade 8. Believe me, it was a battle. For all the time and money I put into this bumper mod I wish I'd just ordered a new bumper (which I know I'm going to end up doing eventually). Live and learn . . . FWIW, the metal shop guy who made the backing plates is a TJ owner too and we discussed the concerns raised by you and 05 Blue about where to locate the mounts to give the stock bumper the best chance of survival. Seems pretty stout to me, but I've never been in a "serious" recovery. Will do my best to avoid . . .


Looks like you reversed cut the ends? I think I like it.... You're right a Bull Bar will look nice.
 
Think I'm done with my mods and upgrades for this season. Finally (almost) finished the steering upgrade last night with the addition of a MetalCloak trackbar and Rocksport steering stabilizer to compliment the Moog ZJ tie rod I did last week. Of all things to fight me, I couldn't separate the OEM 17 year old steering stabilizer from the drag link. Rusted/frozen solid. Thought we were going to blow up the pitman arm puller - we had so much tension on it. No amount of PB Blaster and blows with the BFH would get that thing out. Dropped it off at my regular mechanic today and he removed the drag link, pried it out, installed the new stabilizer and realigned (we toed it in last week when we did the tie rod and last night after the track bar) for a mere $65. Well worth it in my book to be done. Steering feels great!

Probably ok with all that but seeing that will likely make experienced offroaders wary of using it for a serious recovery. I know I would be without knowing anything about it. Grade 8 hardware right?

We revisited this last night as well. Realized the backing plates are only about an 1/8" from contact with the frame rail ends. I'm going to have thicker backing plates made and weld them to the frame rail ends and then bolt through. That should do the trick.
 
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