The great locker debate

What kind of lockers do you run


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Also, with no tank, I use mine for airing up 33s with no issue. The ARB compressor is plenty capable on its own.

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I have had a Lockrite in a different, much heavier vehicle, and it was great for several years until I broke it. Honestly I abused it and I failed not it, I would consider them again. I have not researched or experienced all these lockers as some of you have but here is where I'm at; I would like selectable this time but I'm picky as to its state when disengaged. It has been years since I did any research on them, so correct me if I'm wrong, but the Elockers are limited slip when disengaged compared to open when an ARB is disengaged. I personally would prefer the open for icy/plowed winter travels. Ox or any other cable is out for me because it has a cable, just don't want to deal with that. I do not have any at the moment but I'm heavily leaning toward ARB's.
 
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hmm nice. I will eventually add a rear bumper made with same steel stock. dual air tubes in the future lol

The bumper is mostly a simple and clever way to get air outside the engine bay. Turning it into a tank was mostly incidental. I have thought about doing the same to the rear, but it is faster to have a slightly longer hose and just walk. :)
 
I am running an Eaton E-Locker in the rear, and will be putting an Eaton E-locker in the front this weekend.

not to @CarsonTrailduster Eatons are open when disengaged. Exactly like the ARB, but not like the stock Rubicon as I understand it. I think you are thinking of the stock Rubicon diffs.
 
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not to @CarsonTrailduster Eatons are open when disengaged. Exactly like the ARB, but not like the stock Rubicon as I understand it. I think you are thinking of the stock Rubicon diffs.

Stock TJ Rubicon lockers are low pressure pneumatic. The rear has a gear driven LSD. When locked, they stay locked.

My complaint is that mine have never been quick to lock. I believe that is what ultimately led to my rear stripping out.
 
I'l be putting a PowerTrax No Slip Lunchbox in the front this Friday, hopefully. My reason is because it will do everything I need it to do. It's invisible on the street. It is on permanently when I'm in 4wd. They are reliable up front. I don't have $900 right now. I will use a selectable in the rear, either Eaton or ARB.

That's how my Jeep is now, the PowerTrax has done so well that I've put off a rear locker until I find the right axle; well, can afford the right rear axle.
 
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That's how my Jeep is now, the PowerTrax has done so well that I've put off a rear locker until I find the right axle; well, can afford the right rear axle.
I think that is smart. You are a planner. I have spent so much money just upgrading then changing something and upgrading it again. I have more money than brains I think.
 
That's how my Jeep is now, the PowerTrax has done so well that I've put off a rear locker until I find the right axle; well, can afford the right rear axle.
Sweet! GTK. I have assumed a rear Dana 44, cleaned it up and repainted it, but I'm waiting for some help to re-gear it. It's got the limited slip. I'm thinking that I will run the PowerTrax and Limited Slip for awhile and see how it fares. I suspect it will be quite capable. The Dana 44 was a good find for me. Here's one pic of the goods...

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Power Trax No-Slip in front on Dana 30, TrueTrac in rear on Dana 35. With the limited trail and mud hole riding I've done, the TrueTrac has done a great job on its own in 2wd. I only occasionally feel the need to engage the No-slip in 4wd as an added insurance policy to come out on the other side.
 
Sweet! GTK. I have assumed a rear Dana 44, cleaned it up and repainted it, but I'm waiting for some help to re-gear it. It's got the limited slip. I'm thinking that I will run the PowerTrax and Limited Slip for awhile and see how it fares. I suspect it will be quite capable. The Dana 44 was a good find for me. Here's one pic of the goods...

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Limited slips are pretty much useless when on an offroad trail uneven enough to lift a tire up enough so it loses traction. That's why I replaced both of the Detroit Truetracs I had installed with lockers. Detroit Locker in the rear, No-Slip lunchbox locker up front which proved to be an excellent and very capable combination. I still miss their point and shoot simplicity and effectiveness. :)
 
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Limited slips are pretty much useless when on an offroad trail uneven enough to lift a tire up enough so it loses traction. That's why I replaced both of the Detroit Truetracs I had installed with lockers. Detroit Locker in the rear, No-Slip lunchbox locker up front which proved to be an excellent and very capable combination. I still miss their point and shoot simplicity and effectiveness. :)

But, for those that aren't lifting tires, the TT does extremely well. Example; I ran some trails last week in Idaho in 2wd/TT that I needed 4wd two years ago. On one trail 2 years ago I needed 4lo to make it to the top. Last week, 2wd/4.88/1st gear was all that was needed.

So no, the TT in not a locker but, it is a very capable traction device.
 
But, for those that aren't lifting tires, the TT does extremely well. Example; I ran some trails last week in Idaho in 2wd/TT that I needed 4wd two years ago. On one trail 2 years ago I needed 4lo to make it to the top. Last week, 2wd/4.88/1st gear was all that was needed.

So no, the TT in not a locker but, it is a very capable traction device.

Sometimes it is hard to know your audience. While I was debating a locker, I knew I didn't want or need a LSD, so I think @Jerry Bransford's is great advice for me, but I can definitely see your point.
 
I remember watching a TJ roll up on top of a tall hump at an angle. He got crossed up and the opposite corner tires started spinning. He presumably didn't have lockers to engage, so he needed back down and come at the hump square on in order to maintain traction.

Mine has a rear LSD, so I drove up and over without a second thought.

Someday soon, I'll be getting rid of the LSD feature of my lockers for an ARB, so I'll be like that guy who couldn't drive over that hump without giving it some thought.
 
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I run an arb in the front an a JK Rubi elocker in the rear. I went with those because my axles came with them. As the arb has aged I've been fighting leaks with the seal housing. Sometimes it works, sometimes i have to move a bit and try again before it will hold air. Even when. Leaking through its always locked even with the smallest arb compressor. Except when the hose melted due to exhaust heat (it runs up the outside of my upper control arm and had slipped around to the inside by the cats.) the rear has to be rocked (like a tj rubi locker) to make sure it's engaged but it's always been 100% reliable. I hit the switch and it works. If I was building the front axle from scratch at this point I'd be really tempted by an eaton elocker.


There must have been a time
when we could have said no.
 
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