Best mild tummy tuck?
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I'm blessed to be employed at a place where I could build my own skid.
3/8" 6061 with 1/4" gussets. $0 out of pocket.
BTW, it weighs about 34lbs. I'm fairly certain it's stronger than the shovel was.
BTW, it weighs about 34lbs. I'm fairly certain it's stronger than the shovel was.
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MountaineerTom
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I like that skid. Is that a Savvy engine skid mated to it?
I currently have a Savvy engine slid mated to my OEM skid. I was hoping the Barnes was close to the OEM skid weight, but I seen on the Q&A part for that skid that they said it weight 65 lbs, about 15 pounds more than what my OEM skid weighed when I had it off recently.
It really does unless you are are specifically talking about the tuck or sliders Blaine designed, every pound lost is more than that weaker. Mild weld steel is stronger than welded aluminum. Only treated 6061 can compete pound for pound with mild weld steel. You can talk until your are blue in the face, lightweight bends first unless it has been designed to leverage the different properties of aluminum and this thread ain't talking about that. Why do you think Savvy control arms weigh more than Currie?
If it is welded 6061 you lost the heat treat, if it is lighter it is weaker, them's the facts. I know the material science books are really difficult to understand but that's how the world works.
Yeah, sort of. Yes, you anneal the aluminum in the area that you weld it. Almost immediately, as it cools, some of that heat treat returns. Within a few days, you are about half way back to the original T6. In a few months, you will have the equivalent of T4 in the welded sections.
I understand the facts. Design, material, and cost. If your willing to design, you can utilize lighter materials, but it will have a much greater cost (both material and manufacturing). A stamped piece of steel has minimal design and minimal cost at a higher weight. A part that is designed with properly placed corners, bends, material thickness variances, added shear straps, flanged lightening holes, etc.... can be much lighter and withstand much higher loads. No one is saying compare the same "exact" part made from different materials, they are saying to compare two different parts that are designed to perform the same function.
I agree, that's why I think the Savvy skid is great in aluminum. The UCF transfer case skid (which is what I think @Irun was suggesting) and Savvy engine skid are exactly weaker by the fraction of their weight because they didn't consider the material at all. They simply copied the steel skid. I think the Savvy modular products are well outside the scope of this discussion. I think we really are on a "similar" page and I think I've stirred the pot just about enough.
It is the Savvy engine skid. The Barnes skid is definitely no lightweight but it kept my wallet heavier.
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That's great. I've been considering it as an alternative to a full tuck and all the other things, and cost, that go along with that. Thanks for the info.
Another reason I only buy 03-06 TJ’s, despite the claim one should stay away from the 05-06 bc of a negligible OPDA issue.
Totally love, and would love one for my sons rig. When are you going into business? 04 Auto.
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I've considered it but, honestly, couldn't make it cost effective. You don't want to know how many hours I have lying on my back under the rig taking measurements and notes. Only to transfer into my 3-d CAD model.Totally love, and would love one for my sons rig. When are you going into business? 04 Auto.
It was a really fun project though!
The Barnes gives you about an inch and is not a shovel. It is pretty durn heavy though. I have been happy with mine.
Exactly what I was going to say. If you're already doing all the work and adding all the parts for a tummy tuck, might as well go all the way. If not, it sounds like the UCF skid that Vasq mentioned is what you're looking for.
Whether one thing is stronger than the other isn’t the right question. Whether something is strong enough is.
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I guess if you haven't bent stuff you really shouldn't comment one way or another, that's how you see it right?