You should write a letter to Jeep and tell them to stop making them.because Rubicon TJ,s are no longer what they were! they are now just a Hood decal and dealer selling point years ago!
16 " wheels cheap as chips! Locker switches, plenty available!
2006 TJ Rubicon
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No TJ is worth $30K US! get a grip on this Covid "Un reality"! Buy a clean sports for $10K and enjoy it for what it is because Rubicon TJ,s are no longer what they were! they are now just a Hood decal and dealer selling point years ago!
16 " wheels cheap as chips! Locker switches, plenty available! But if its worth 3 TJ Sports then hey go for it.
I'd tell the dealer to
But I get it, they may in fact find some fool willing to fork over 30k that that thing, and good for all parties involved if everyone is happy. I'm however starting to look at these things from a different perspective. If the supply (and burning of) fossil fuels were not a constant sore subject we have to hear about 24/7, I might even consider being one of the fools in that transaction as it’s a beautiful rig, but I think the reality is that they’re coming for all dino-burners and they aren’t gonna stop until driving one is essentially criminalized. That may sound farfetched, but I don’t see how we’re not trending in that precise direction, & it’s rapidly gaining momentum. At this particular juncture in human history I just can’t see pissing away big dollars on something that may be rendered obsolete with the stroke of a pen.
Though, I guess you could always swap in a Musk motor & be on your way.
But I get it, they may in fact find some fool willing to fork over 30k that that thing, and good for all parties involved if everyone is happy. I'm however starting to look at these things from a different perspective. If the supply (and burning of) fossil fuels were not a constant sore subject we have to hear about 24/7, I might even consider being one of the fools in that transaction as it’s a beautiful rig, but I think the reality is that they’re coming for all dino-burners and they aren’t gonna stop until driving one is essentially criminalized. That may sound farfetched, but I don’t see how we’re not trending in that precise direction, & it’s rapidly gaining momentum. At this particular juncture in human history I just can’t see pissing away big dollars on something that may be rendered obsolete with the stroke of a pen.
Though, I guess you could always swap in a Musk motor & be on your way.
Oil isn't going away anytime soon. Electric is going to be the better option for most uses once the infrastructure is in place. However, that is a very, very long way off. The electrical grid can not handle it. Plus big oil will be fighting it which will slow it down even more. These auto manufactures that claim that they'll be all electric by 2035 are lying. They know it's not possible but they want to appease the very loud tree huggers. Not enough electricity or charging infrastructure. Battery technology would have to advance well beyond where it is now. Not enough raw materials to make the batteries with the current technology. Charging speeds will have to increase dramatically without degrading battery performance. Faster charging creates more heat which degrades batteries faster.
It's not farfetched and we are trending in that direction which is a good thing. However, it's not happening anytime soon and probably not even in this century. I think you're safe buying an ICE vehicle. They aren't going away soon. Plus as more cars are electric it will decrease oil demand making gas more affordable.
I love driving my electric car. It's quick, quiet and fun to drive. Plus it's cheap to operate. When I charge at home I get over 30 miles for one dollar of electricity. Our electric rates are cheap.
I agree to the extent that I’ll buy another daily driver gas burner, probably something like the Subie I currently drive, but those things are disposable much like televisions & washing machines, so I’d buy with confidence I’d get the intended value therefrom, which to me is about 10 years. But I don’t see a vintage Corvette or Ruby as disposable, and I’m only speaking for myself here when I say if I bought one I’d want to be able to still drive it in 2032, 2042 & perhaps into the 2050s right about when I’m scheduled to croak, if things go well
. In fact that’s the plan I had/have for the TJ I did buy in 2016, it was always my hope that my kids would be fighting over it when I’m gone…If you have faith that the world political system will permit burning of fossil fuels for individual use/daily drivers or toys throughout that stretch, then buy all means it’s not an issue.
I don’t have that faith in our world ‘leaders’, not with trends the way I seen them.
I also agree there will be fuel throughout that stretch, though I tend to think it’s usage will be far more restricted to things like industrial, farming, military… Joe’s shitbox to get back & forth to work & take to the kids to the beach on the weekends, not so much.
I think if I was asking $30k I would be pissed or ignore you if someone offered me $20k. Not that it’s worth $30k, just saying that’s what people think.
$9k is way more realistic than $30k. Front end suspension parts are easy and cheap to fix. Offer $8500 and fix it.
Never have faith in the political system! I do recognize that what they want to do and what can be done are 2 very different things. There are so many advantages to electric over gas. It just can't be accomplished on a wide scale anytime soon. It'll happen one day but that day will be long after we're gone. Until that time comes, progress towards the goal of eliminating ICE will continue, which isn't a bad thing.
There is someone sealing in acrate Mustang electric engine into a TJ on another wrangler forum. It’s looking good so far.
I’m convinced that there are only two reasons to buy a Rubicon: 1) resale value. 2) to run a tire no bigger than 32”.
Everything else I can do better.
It does have 31x10.5x16 tires on it including the spare. The little rubber stoppers that support the tire and help stop it from moving around while mounted on the tailgate don’t even touch the tire with the offset of the aftermarket wheels. The tailgate has some slop in it when closed. I realize the latch should be able to be adjusted to take the slop out. The tailgate looks like it may be tweaked a bit with the weight of the tire. The bottom seems to meet the tub, but the top doesn’t. I’m thinking a little time and d just should be able to get that tight again. The hardtop door seems a little loose at the bottom; I’m not sure if that will be fixed when the tailgate is adjusted. The rear window hatch also squeaks a lot when driving down the road. Would new seals on it and tightening up the tailgate latch possibly eliminate that?
True.
I always purchase new to avoid lemon type/used car issues, then keep for a minimum of 10 years to suck the good life/value out of them then dumping while I can still grab a nice chunk on their sale before moving on to the next. I could certainly go longer but after a decade in the same ride it's time for a change. And they're always econo-cruisers, cheap, reliable & utilitarian is just about all I care about in a daily driver, thus the current subie hatchback.
I'm not sure I'm ready to go full EV yet but I've been looking at the Honda Insight plug in hybrid as a candidate for my next ride (2024), seems like a reasonable step for me. My daily commute is 30ish miles which is about the range of their battery, but I also want to be able to drive out to visit my daughter (250 miles) without worrying about running out of juice... I'm a huge Honda fan, have had quite a few, & I think that particular version could keep me out of gas stations for months at a time.
As an aside, and to drag this thread even further off-topic
, I made the switch to all battery lawn tools this past season as all my gas crap was beat to death. Leaf blower, weed whacker came first & I liked them so much I went back & grabbed the hedge trimmer and 16 inch chainsaw. Holy shit this stuff blows away their 2 stroke counterparts. At least for moderate home usage anyway, I'm no longer felling whole trees & chopping them up, just smaller stuff for maintenance, but damn these things make so much more sense.
I’m eyeing the Rivian and F-150 Lightning to replace my Ram 1500. I’m a carpenter that works out of my truck and I think they are both more than up to fully replacing my ram with a fully electric truck for work and to pull my travel trailer. I saw some guys on the TFL truck channel on youtube testing the Rivian towing 8100 pounds over the Ike pass in Colorado. When the one driving the Rivian got on it to get onto the interstate he was pulling away from a unloaded ram truck the other guy was in. I was impressed and tho two men running the test were too.True.
I always purchase new to avoid lemon type/used car issues, then keep for a minimum of 10 years to suck the good life/value out of them then dumping while I can still grab a nice chunk on their sale before moving on to the next. I could certainly go longer but after a decade in the same ride it's time for a change. And they're always econo-cruisers, cheap, reliable & utilitarian is just about all I care about in a daily driver, thus the current subie hatchback.
I'm not sure I'm ready to go full EV yet but I've been looking at the Honda Insight plug in hybrid as a candidate for my next ride (2024), seems like a reasonable step for me. My daily commute is 30ish miles which is about the range of their battery, but I also want to be able to drive out to visit my daughter (250 miles) without worrying about running out of juice... I'm a huge Honda fan, have had quite a few, & I think that particular version could keep me out of gas stations for months at a time.
As an aside, and to drag this thread even further off-topic
Your lawn equipment has motors? My lawn mower is a new version of the old reel mower. I push it and the reel starts spinning to cut my lawn.
It’s for the wife to drive. She was actually Interviewed about the project. I would post a link to the thread, but I’m not sure if posting a thread from another forum is allowed here. Here is the interview video.DO WHAT ?
And here’s a video of her talking about it on her YouTube channel
Who knows. I’d just have to look at it. A Rubi for $30k would need to be perfect. Even for $20k. I sold this near mint 2003 TJR in summer of 2021 for $17.8k, my asking price.
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