Another Tracer build
- Thread starter David Kishpaugh
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Looking forward to seeing how this goes.
Can you share anything about plans? What axles? Gearing? Lockers? Tire size?
Can you share anything about plans? What axles? Gearing? Lockers? Tire size?
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Genright Tracer kit. oddly enough the rear geometry is so close to what I've been building, it's not even funny, but the arms are 11" longer.
rock jock 60's, 538 gears, auburn e-locker and 40" trail grapplers.
I'm not happy at all about the auburn locker but genright sales convinced the customer they work just fine.
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Sounds like he has enough $ to replace the locker down the road if needed.
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Same geometry to your geo correction kit? I thought you didnt triangulate the uppers on your kit?
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no, short arms have a different effect but if you string a line at ride height, the connection point is at 36" at the bottom of the frame on the lower arm, genright is 40" and the bolt center is 2.5" below the frame. The triangulated mid arms I do as well as rear mid arm/ panhard using the upper geometry correction brackets are.
the upper axle brackets raise the axle brackets 2.5" higher than stock, just about the same as a low truss like savvy uses which is
5 7/8" above the top of the tube to the bolt center, my geometry correction is 6.25" to the bolt center
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Yes thanks for posting this up and showing what goes into a build like this. When you are done can you give a pall park figure of the hours spent?
What is the reason/need for the extra crossmembers? The right in front of engine/frame notch & then the one in the rear at the outboard.
Thanks again.
What is the reason/need for the extra crossmembers? The right in front of engine/frame notch & then the one in the rear at the outboard.
Thanks again.
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The x-member in front of the engine is a track bar brace and also part of the reason gen right doesn't seem to require a crossover bar on the front towers. I will likely redo the front bar so I can keep the mechanical fan but I need to clearance check everything after the axles are hung first. This rig will be daily driven so it'll see hours of sitting in traffic, hills and probably pull a trailer with a dirt bike vs coming off a trailer and running a 10 minute obstacle and shut off.
The rear gets the body mounts attached to it and also reinforces the towers.
I didn't touch it at all this weekend. We'll resume on Monday. It's looking like 70-80 hours plus all the miscellaneous stuff that'll come after the body hits the frame, cage, cage tie ins, seats...
The rear gets the body mounts attached to it and also reinforces the towers.
I didn't touch it at all this weekend. We'll resume on Monday. It's looking like 70-80 hours plus all the miscellaneous stuff that'll come after the body hits the frame, cage, cage tie ins, seats...
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Had a little accident on the dirt bike, we're back at it again.
Third full work day after it sat for a week.
We found we are missing bump cans and all the control arm joints for the summit machine arms after ripping open the remainder of the boxes. I had to cut down the shanks on some Barnes Enduro joints for mock up.
Third full work day after it sat for a week.
We found we are missing bump cans and all the control arm joints for the summit machine arms after ripping open the remainder of the boxes. I had to cut down the shanks on some Barnes Enduro joints for mock up.
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Measuring a few things out tonight, the rear suspension at full bump is the equivalent to having 5" of bumpstop extension, 8" spring stack height.
@ stock ride height sitting at full bump
@ stock ride height sitting at full bump
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Snags to work through.
At full bump.... when the pitman arm hits the diff and the track bar hits the harmonic balancer, there is still 1.5" of shock shaft showing. Looking like I'll be bending the track bar or making a new one. We spent a bunch of time moving things around. If we pull it off the crank, it hits the steering. A motor mount lift could come into play but we aren't putting a body lift on and that won't move the pitman arm up.
Of course I can just set the bumpstop cans to compensate but 1.5" is 1.5" on a rig that'll be sitting at ride height with about 5" of shaft showing.
At full bump.... when the pitman arm hits the diff and the track bar hits the harmonic balancer, there is still 1.5" of shock shaft showing. Looking like I'll be bending the track bar or making a new one. We spent a bunch of time moving things around. If we pull it off the crank, it hits the steering. A motor mount lift could come into play but we aren't putting a body lift on and that won't move the pitman arm up.
Of course I can just set the bumpstop cans to compensate but 1.5" is 1.5" on a rig that'll be sitting at ride height with about 5" of shaft showing.