Hey guys!
Just a random thread.
Are JKs more capable than TJs in off road capabilities? What do you think?
Just a random thread.
Are JKs more capable than TJs in off road capabilities? What do you think?
Generally yes. Stock to stock, no comparison. JK is better in every aspect except cost and size.Hey guys!
Just a random thread.
Are JKs more capable than TJs in off road capabilities? What do you think?
I’ve seen properly built TJs on 35s do some pretty impressive stuff, but sometimes there is no replacement for tire size. A JK built right on 40s is Extremely capable.Are properly built TJs with 35s, able to do trails that JKUs with 37-40s are doing? Mostly Rock crawling stuff
Qualifier here....2012+ JK. Prior to that, you got the gutless 3.8, often couped with a 42RLE!Stock vs stock, I don't think it's even close. JKs would be better in almost every regard. More power, larger tires, less hangy down bits. You give up a couple inches in width (2 Dr vs 2 Dr), but the positives vastly outweigh the negatives.
You are very accurate. When we worked the short lead media launch on the Rubicon for the JK introduction, we got to drive them back to back down to Rubicon Springs from the ski resort the media drove them to. JK Rubicon 2 and 4 door against the TJ Rubicon. All bone stock. Hands down the JK was more comfortable and more capable.Stock vs stock, I don't think it's even close. JKs would be better in almost every regard. More power, larger tires, less hangy down bits. You give up a couple inches in width (2 Dr vs 2 Dr), but the positives vastly outweigh the negatives.
I was given to understand - rightly or wrongly - that ABS wasn't all that great offroad??If you were to step down and compare the non Rubi TJ to the non Rubi JK, the gap gets wider since the ABS on the JK will take it much further in low traction situations than the TJ ever thought about being able to do.
ABS done well stops tires from spinning when they shouldn't be. Guess what a locker does?I was given to understand - rightly or wrongly - that ABS wasn't all that great offroad??
Unless you need more power, more room, more doors, more ground clearance, bigger tires, or more tow capacity.LJ is the best!
ABS done well stops tires from spinning when they shouldn't be. Guess what a locker does?
I thought that was *only* when using the brakes? Are you saying "ABS" or "Traction Control"?ABS done well stops tires from spinning when they shouldn't be. Guess what a locker does?
Was this in 2006 during one of the Jeep Jamborees ?You are very accurate. When we worked the short lead media launch on the Rubicon for the JK introduction, we got to drive them back to back down to Rubicon Springs from the ski resort the media drove them to. JK Rubicon 2 and 4 door against the TJ Rubicon. All bone stock. Hands down the JK was more comfortable and more capable.
If you were to step down and compare the non Rubi TJ to the non Rubi JK, the gap gets wider since the ABS on the JK will take it much further in low traction situations than the TJ ever thought about being able to do.
There is a fairly flat section between Tahoe and where you drop downhill to start going down the trail. It is long and just rough, lots of football size rocks, too small to crawl and too big to take at good speed. That section with the JK Rubi disconnecting swaybar was tolerable and in the TJ just brutal.
Participated in an outing in which all the TJs made it over a hill with no issues.The biggest difference you will find between JK's and TJ's is between the JKU and the TJ. The long wheelbase makes the JKU better at certain things (hill climbs) and worse at other things due to breakover angle.
Between a JK and a TJ I think the difference will usually come down to how each is built and driver skill.
06 but we spent two weeks up there not during any of the organized runs for Jeep or Jeepers Jamborees running around taking care of the media reps they flew in.Was this in 2006 during one of the Jeep Jamborees ?
The ABS system on the JK is advanced enough to use it for traction control. There is no VSS on the t-case, all ground speed data is picked up by the ABS sensors at each corner. That is all tied into what is essentially full time traction control. It is common to get the steering wheel off slightly which throws a traction control MIL so the systems are integrated enough to not distinguish between straight ABS and traction control. They may have a different algorithm in 4 wheel drive.I thought that was *only* when using the brakes? Are you saying "ABS" or "Traction Control"?