Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ radiator

Brake caliper recommendations

If you're staying with stock style calipers, you want these:

https://blackmagicbrakes.com/ols/pr...ated-front-stock-replacement-calipers-no-pads

Pads, as other have already stated, are dependent on several factors, including tire size and driving style. @mrblaine can answer those types of questions - in my particular case, he advised me to NOT use his pads. You won't go wrong with BMB and Blaine. I don't know why he says no powder coat - although I have a couple of ideas that may or may not be correct. But if he says that, I believe it.
 
33s and I feel like it stops fine. I typically dont go past 65 in it, and im really pushing if im doing it. Im in western ky which is mainly rural with hilly curvy roads.

Are you confident in your TJ's braking ability in an emergency stopping situation?
 
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33s and I feel like it stops fine. I typically dont go past 65 in it, and im really pushing if im doing it. Im in western ky which is mainly rural with hilly curvy roads.

Why not keep what you’ve got? Thought drums are only on rear? They’re are easy enough to do (take pics) and don’t need to be done often for daily driving. Put that money into something else? A lot of us have BMB pads up front, they work great but you need to drive them aggressively
 
Are you confident in your TJ's braking ability in an emergency stopping situation?

If i could get it to stop better I would be for it. I do drive with my kids in it quite often. So my question is If the ones I have can lock up the tires could a different style make it stop any faster?
 
If you're staying with stock style calipers, you want these:

https://blackmagicbrakes.com/ols/pr...ated-front-stock-replacement-calipers-no-pads

Pads, as other have already stated, are dependent on several factors, including tire size and driving style. @mrblaine can answer those types of questions - in my particular case, he advised me to NOT use his pads. You won't go wrong with BMB and Blaine. I don't know why he says no powder coat - although I have a couple of ideas that may or may not be correct. But if he says that, I believe it.



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Because they can't coat where the dust boot presses into which then rusts, the rust pushes the dust boot into the piston, the piston sticks or drags.
 
If i could get it to stop better I would be for it. I do drive with my kids in it quite often. So my question is If the ones I have can lock up the tires could a different style make it stop any faster?
Yes, but that is a hair being split that most won't benefit from.
 
Pads, as other have already stated, are dependent on several factors, including tire size and driving style. @mrblaine can answer those types of questions - in my particular case, he advised me to NOT use his pads.
You don't need to drive like you're in a race car, but you do need to use them like you mean it. If you can't overcome your daddy issues that taught you to do long coasting stops under the misguided notion that is somehow a good thing, then my stuff isn't for you. You'll glaze them over, ruin the performance and they won't be there when you need them to be. But, if you do insist and do manage to do that to them, a simple enthusiastic repeat of the break in procedure will bring them right back. The most important thing is to get what you paid for. If you can't help me help you to do that, lets not abuse each other.
 
You don't need to drive like you're in a race car, but you do need to use them like you mean it. If you can't overcome your daddy issues that taught you to do long coasting stops under the misguided notion that is somehow a good thing, then my stuff isn't for you. You'll glaze them over, ruin the performance and they won't be there when you need them to be. But, if you do insist and do manage to do that to them, a simple enthusiastic repeat of the break in procedure will bring them right back. The most important thing is to get what you paid for. If you can't help me help you to do that, lets not abuse each other.

OTOH, my brakes generally last around 100K miles! ;) :D
 
OTOH, my brakes generally last around 100K miles! ;) :D
Like I said, if you are operating under a misguided notion, I can't help you. If our pads cost 1 cent per mile of use, they would cost 500 dollars a set, they are 1/4 of that. Are we really going to debate the value difference between a quarter of a cent per mile and 1 cent per mile? Fully misguided.
 
Like I said, if you are operating under a misguided notion, I can't help you. If our pads cost 1 cent per mile of use, they would cost 500 dollars a set, they are 1/4 of that. Are we really going to debate the value difference between a quarter of a cent per mile and 1 cent per mile? Fully misguided.

Nothing misguided about it - I was taught proper braking technique, esp. in the mountains. There is no need to jam the brakes 99% of the time, as well as one should NEVER ride one's brakes which I'm sure you'll agree with. But its all good, you do you, I'll do me, and we'll both be happy. In any event, I won't buy brake stuff for my Jeep from anyone but you! {BOW HERE}

True story: Had my wife's car in at a tire shop - they would do a free inspection while your car was there, although they didn't do anything but tires and alignments. Car had about 66K on it. Guy told me that I had about 2/3rds of my brake pads, and needed to "start thinking about" a brake job! I asked him why, there's 2/3rds left! He asked me when the last time the car had had a brake job... (!!) Uh... NEVER. I'll look at it again around 100K miles. IIRC, I think I did brakes on it at 110K, and there was around 1/4 left then.

OTOH, the old MBZ eats brakes - its heavy and has an automatic. I'm lucky to get 60K out of a front set, even though I do a 4-3 downshift most of the time.

I've known people who couldn't get 20K out of a set of pads! Had a neighbor who replaced pads and rotors ever 10K miles and considered it normal. His wife and him both were two footed drivers!
 
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Nothing misguided about it - I was taught proper braking technique, esp. in the mountains. There is no need to jam the brakes 99% of the time, as well as one should NEVER ride one's brakes which I'm sure you'll agree with. But its all good, you do you, I'll do me, and we'll both be happy. In any event, I won't buy brake stuff for my Jeep from anyone but you! {BOW HERE}
I never said to jam on the brakes, you don't need to jam on the brakes, just don't do long coasting stops. You were taught a single way to brake, there are many more ways and methods that are just as proper. That said, your response above is why I said to stay away from our pads. You think you're right and there is no convincing you that other methods are just as appropriate.
True story: Had my wife's car in at a tire shop - they would do a free inspection while your car was there, although they didn't do anything but tires and alignments. Car had about 66K on it. Guy told me that I had about 2/3rds of my brake pads, and needed to "start thinking about" a brake job! I asked him why, there's 2/3rds left! He asked me when the last time the car had had a brake job... (!!) Uh... NEVER. I'll look at it again around 100K miles. IIRC, I think I did brakes on it at 110K, and there was around 1/4 left then.

OTOH, the old MBZ eats brakes - its heavy and has an automatic. I'm lucky to get 60K out of a front set, even though I do a 4-3 downshift most of the time.

I've known people who couldn't get 20K out of a set of pads! Had a neighbor who replaced pads and rotors ever 10K miles and considered it normal. His wife and him both were two footed drivers!
 
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I never said to jam on the brakes, you don't need to jam on the brakes, just don't do long coasting stops. You were taught a single way to brake, there are many more ways and methods that are just as proper. That said, your response above is why I said to stay away from our pads. You think you're right and there is no convincing you that other methods are just as appropriate.

Other methods are just fine - people do what they're gonna do, including you and me. Its all good!
 
Novak Conversions Jeep Wrangler TJ radiator