I hate all the driving assist stuff in my wife's car. Including adaptive cruise (outside of traffic backups on the interstate).
So if they try to make me pay, I'll opt out.
So if they try to make me pay, I'll opt out.
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Unfortunately true, but still I feel that the general information is useful considering the method is still relatively the same on a majority of cars new and old on the road. That may change in the future, but better to know and not need than need and not know.
As did I (similarly) but I don't think this is the norm, even more so nowadays. Go karts, mini bikes, even bicycles (thinking more bmx/mountian bike here) can and will teach you important lessons in physics. You grew up on a farm, if I'm not mistaken, IMHO that actually makes a difference as well. You were probably taught to operate all manner of equipment long before you were legally allowed to drive - in fact, you probably operated some of those machines on the roads well before 16.
First time driving a tractor by myself on the road I was 9. (kind of emergency situation) I had been driving to square bale hay for a while before that.
We had a hill that if you got dry hay under the tires of the tractor you would slide down while baling. I was driving a tractor pulling a baler and a hay rack out of control down the hill. Nobody died.
I was running combines down the road and hauling grain to town well before I had a drivers license.
I never rolled a tractor, my dad did, but we had places where you'd be so off camber all you could do is be ready to jump if it started going over.
Part of the reason I got my daughter into dirt bikes, she can't legally trail ride ATV's here yet, but she's still got a lot to learn.
Man card REVOKED!!!
Of course you did, because you're not a feckin' idiot and you just spent a bunch of money on a thing and want to use it correctly. You aren't "a lot of people" though...
To be fair I was impatiently waiting for it to be built and you can only check the build status so much before you realize you have access to all the manuals.
Adaptive cruise is great, depending on how the manufacturer implemented it. Some of them I've used in rentals are pretty bad.
My truck (Ford) stores 3 different trailer lengths into memory to adjust the BLISS for them.
When you start the truck with a trailer connected, it will ask you if it's one of the stored trailers or a new one.
If a new one, it will ask the length so it can adjust the BLISS and then ask if you want it to replace one of the existing stored trailers.
It's front and center in the instrument panel when you start the truck so there's no not realizing it's there.
I suppose there's probably a way to skip all the prompts but I've never tried.
In theory, maybe. In practice, I'm with @Apparition , feck the Man.
Honestly, I think we could do a much better job of training people in the first place. I think it could and would make a remarkable difference. The test I took was not particularly challenging or difficult, if memory serves.
If you're into motorsports, you may have heard the phrase, "If you want to win, hire a Fin!", and that's not all rhetoric. Driving in Finland can be challenging, for any number of reasons, but producing good drivers is not an accident. Their driver training requirements are pretty serious, as I understand it, and it takes a bit of time to complete.
Did anyone here have skid pad or hydroplane spin training to get their license? The best most of us probably got was, "steer into the slide." While not bad advice, it's a bit more nuanced than that.
All you are doing is shifting the involvement of the Man to more exhaustive government stunt car training on the front end, instead of a little refreshing (and reassessment) every 9 years until the end.
Ours senses too far out even on the lowest setting. You won't notice until cars start passing that it dropped you from 80 down to 65 slowly and gets you stuck behind a geezer. No way to turn it off. You get 1 of 3 settings.
Tech I can't turn off is shitification too.
The one that bothers me the most is new degradable wiring insulation. Japanese cars had to bury it in wrap because it's a rodent magnet, and it fails much sooner.
I'm surprised you can't turn it off, I don't think I've seen one that you didn't have the option of normal cruise on.
I'm simply suggesting we don't teach people to operate motor vehicles properly in the first place. The baseline is already severely skewed, until that changes I don't think additional review would make a difference.
Regarding government involvement (in anything, really), generally speaking it'll likely cost way too much and be completely ineffective. If we were serious about these things and the government wasn't run by criminals, I'd certainly consider it. The only thing the DOT checks when I renew my license every 10 years is my vision, and, while somewhat critical to the act of driving safely, it's probably not the only thing that is...
This, 100%. I'd rank some of the systems as borderline dangerous.
We did go through some things like that but even rules of the road is a good starting point. I feel like most dumbasses I see on the road don’t understand what the different lines on the road mean or what to do when a normal traffic light is flashing red.
Once we start implementing things that let the driver relax and become less aware of what is going on is where I think we start running into problems.
Was thinking more about this. In snow storms if the adaptive sensor on my truck gets blocked it defaults to traditional cruise.
You should try disconnecting or blocking your sensor and see what happens.
Many intersections by me are shut down for road construction. Large multi lane, multi turn lane intersections. Flashing red.
I've seen people not stop and go right through and I've seen people stop and wait for the color to change.
I'd like to try one - I'm just afraid that it would put me into the pack driving mentality I see entirely too much of (and long before adaptive cruise was a thing). I wouldn't want to pay for it, even if I did like it - but I'd like to try one.
That's the kind of thing I'm afraid of. I had a rental a couple of years back, but unfortunately it didn't have adaptive cruise, so I wasn't able to try it. It did have auto-dimming headlites which were "ok", but would dim at times when the didn't need to. That's kinda hard to get away from in such a system, you have to design it that way.
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