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I'd like to try one - I'm just afraid that it would put me into the pack driving mentality I see entirely too much of (and long before adaptive cruise was a thing). I wouldn't want to pay for it, even if I did like it - but I'd like to try one.

I usually click my speed up so I'm just slightly faster than all but the one fool who is pretty much on the verge of getting a ticket. I always let them lead so they can clear the path ahead of me. Once you've used adaptive a lot, you get used to getting over sooner or adding a little accelerator to turn it off. On mine it the left turn signal also overrides it so you start speeding up as soon as you turn it on if you are behind someone slow.
 
I usually click my speed up so I'm just slightly faster than all but the one fool who is pretty much on the verge of getting a ticket. I always let them lead so they can clear the path ahead of me. Once you've used adaptive a lot, you get used to getting over sooner or adding a little accelerator to turn it off. On mine it the left turn signal also overrides it so you start speeding up as soon as you turn it on if you are behind someone slow.

Acceleration turns it off? That would take getting used to for sure.
 
Acceleration turns it off? That would take getting used to for sure.

Only while you are pushing it. when you remove your foot it goes right back to the set speed.

Example, you are catching someone but can't get over to go around because you are being passed but you don't want to slow down before you move over. If you put your foot lightly on the accelerator it won't slow you down so it holds speed until you are clear to move over and go around.

You can still always temporarily accelerate like you can with traditional cruise. Once you let off it goes back to whatever the cruise is set at.
 
Only while you are pushing it. when you remove your foot it goes right back to the set speed.

Example, you are catching someone but can't get over to go around because you are being passed but you don't want to slow down before you move over. If you put your foot lightly on the accelerator it won't slow you down so it holds speed until you are clear to move over and go around.

You can still always temporarily accelerate like you can with traditional cruise. Once you let off it goes back to whatever the cruise is set at.

Oh, ok - that makes sense. Its an override, not an out and out cancel.
 
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The adaptive cruise control works well on my truck, but unfortunately it is often thwarted by other idiot drivers.

An all too frequent example:

On the highway, speed limit 70, adaptive cruise at 73 or 74.

Come up on a slower moving vehicle in my lane so I move to the left lane.

The slower driver cannot let this affront to their driving skill go unchallenged so they immediately speed up to a bit more than my cruise setting.

Now there is no longer a reason to pass so I move back over to the right lane, whereupon they immediately begin slowing back down to their former speed :mad:

So now after one round of this ridiculous dance I just pass them with authority and put a nice gap before going back into the right lane.
 
The adaptive cruise control works well on my truck, but unfortunately it is often thwarted by other idiot drivers.

An all too frequent example:

On the highway, speed limit 70, adaptive cruise at 73 or 74.

Come up on a slower moving vehicle in my lane so I move to the left lane.

The slower driver cannot let this affront to their driving skill go unchallenged so they immediately speed up to a bit more than my cruise setting.

Now there is no longer a reason to pass so I move back over to the right lane, whereupon they immediately begin slowing back down to their former speed :mad:

So now after one round of this ridiculous dance I just pass them with authority and put a nice gap before going back into the right lane.

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We have a problem out here that I started noticing about ten years ago where a whole bunch of people in all sizes of vehicles are incapable of making a left turn without veering to the right to swing wide. This is a frequently scary thing on a multi-lane one way street during heavy traffic.

This is why we need cars with lane assist.

I agree that the wide turning thing has become increasingly prevalent. But I dont like the lane assist idea.
If people can't drive a larger vehicle properly, they need to either learn or go back to piloting a Yugo.

On a related concern, what is everyones thoughts on requiring upgraded drivers licenses for those towing and/or driving RVs?

I see people struggling to maintain their lane of travel way more often when it's a large (or even not) RV.

A friend who owns an RV park says he spends a good share of his otherwise "spare" time repairing things that some jackwagon who previously drove nothing bigger than a Prius destroyed. He needed to show the world that his bank account is bigger than theirs and now he's running into and over shit that any average farm kid could've avoided.
Especially where doubles are legal- these RV "trains" can legally be longer than a class 8 semi combo, yet no training or license is required???
 
I'd like to try one - I'm just afraid that it would put me into the pack driving mentality I see entirely too much of (and long before adaptive cruise was a thing). I wouldn't want to pay for it, even if I did like it - but I'd like to try one.

Adaptive cruise control is useless technological bloOOOOOat that no one asked for. I will not participate.
 
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when we were in Scotland in February the car we rented had two different cruise modes - one was like we have here where the cruise setting is the "floor."

The other was the opposite - the cruise setting was the max, so you had to use the accelerator, and if you let off you would slow down, but it kept you from going faster than you want. I gave it a shot for a while to avoid getting fined for speeding. The motorway between Edinburgh and Inverness is a nice wide highway with a 70mph speed limit and signs about every 5 miles warning of speed cameras. Once we got into the highlands, cruise was not useful...the roads were too narrow and curvy for me to be interested in exceeding the limit.
 
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On a related concern, what is everyones thoughts on requiring upgraded drivers licenses for those towing and/or driving RVs?

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Government nanny state intrusion. Let the free market figure it out.
 
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I agree that the wide turning thing has become increasingly prevalent. But I dont like the lane assist idea.
If people can't drive a larger vehicle properly, they need to either learn or go back to piloting a Yugo.

On a related concern, what is everyones thoughts on requiring upgraded drivers licenses for those towing and/or driving RVs?

I see people struggling to maintain their lane of travel way more often when it's a large (or even not) RV.

A friend who owns an RV park says he spends a good share of his otherwise "spare" time repairing things that some jackwagon who previously drove nothing bigger than a Prius destroyed. He needed to show the world that his bank account is bigger than theirs and now he's running into and over shit that any average farm kid could've avoided.
Especially where doubles are legal- these RV "trains" can legally be longer than a class 8 semi combo, yet no training or license is required???

I see a lot of people towing horribly overloaded or at the least very poorly setup.

Insurance companies could provide an incentive for taking classes and submitting the completion certificate.
 
Adaptive cruise is great, depending on how the manufacturer implemented it. Some of them I've used in rentals are pretty bad.

It's the best for road trips and really is a game changer, other than the follow distance setting - the GM implementation is pretty solid in our 2019 Yukon.
 
doesn't even really matter. At least in my drivers ed course, it was focused mostly on the rules of the road and offered almost nothing with respect to controlling a vehicle in panic or low traction scenarios.

When I was 21 and started my first EMT job, they sent us to EVOC (emergency vehicle operations course) training for a day. First lesson was driving in wet conditions on polished concrete: While dry, drive this way, stop, turn drive again stop, turn. Then drive and wait for them to tell you to slam on your brakes. After a couple minutes of that, they turned the sprinklers on! Then it got fun real fast! Nobody told me to bring a change of underwear...
 
When I was 21 and started my first EMT job, they sent us to EVOC (emergency vehicle operations course) training for a day. First lesson was driving in wet conditions on polished concrete: While dry, drive this way, stop, turn drive again stop, turn. Then drive and wait for them to tell you to slam on your brakes. After a couple minutes of that, they turned the sprinklers on! Then it got fun real fast! Nobody told me to bring a change of underwear...

My driver's ed had something like this. Since I had a vehicle that didn't have ABS we got to get a bit rowdy where they'd pull the e-brake and toss me into a spin that I had to recover from. It was great and something that sticks with me.
 
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The adaptive cruise control works well on my truck, but unfortunately it is often thwarted by other idiot drivers.

An all too frequent example:

On the highway, speed limit 70, adaptive cruise at 73 or 74.

Come up on a slower moving vehicle in my lane so I move to the left lane.

The slower driver cannot let this affront to their driving skill go unchallenged so they immediately speed up to a bit more than my cruise setting.

Now there is no longer a reason to pass so I move back over to the right lane, whereupon they immediately begin slowing back down to their former speed :mad:

So now after one round of this ridiculous dance I just pass them with authority and put a nice gap before going back into the right lane.

BTDTGTTSGOO!

I'll let them re-pass me - ONCE. If they start that slow down bullshit again and I have to pass them again, they are NOT getting around me a second time. I'll go as fast as I need to to prevent that from happening. Funny thing is, they'll usually just lay back after the second time anyway. I actually can't remember the last time this happened, its been awhile...
 
Government nanny state intrusion. Let the free market figure it out.

I dont see it as nanny state intrusion.

Most truck drivers have to go to an actual school to learn to handle their rigs. Sure, these RVs are lighter but many are every bit as long as a semi.
There are many quirks to handling a rig of that size that isn't taught in regular Drivers Ed. The wind and hills are 2 that come to mind, along with proper setup of both the towing rig and the towed rig.
One of the big things people need to understand, in my mind, is "just because you can doesn't mean you should".
I once saw a large motorhome tooling down the interstate pulling a Dodge Dakota with a side by side in the bed/on the roof.
The pickup was darting back and forth behind that motorhome, not sure why. Normally I'd say too light on the tongue but I believe the pickup was being flat towed.