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Zorba said:
Yep! And why would ANYONE listen to that guy about anything involving this? He didn't even graduate from college if I remember rightly, and he certainly didn't major in these subjects. Oh, wait... I forgot - he's a rich elite, so he automatically knows what's best for us "little people".
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There are experts on things without schooling but it helps.

He’s not an expert.
 
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chili_pepper said:
He's not a farmer, either, yet for some reason it would appear he's the largest private owner of US farmland... ;)
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Depends on the definition of farmland I guess.

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https://www.agriculture.com/farm-ma...t-who-owns-the-most-land-in-the-united-states

Gates’ portfolio comprises about 242,000 acres of farmland and nearly 27,000 acres of other land across 19 states, according to The Land Report, a magazine for land investors that tracks the nation’s biggest landowners.

The biggest chunks of Gates’ holdings are in Louisiana and Arkansas, where he owns 69,071 acres and 47,927 acres, respectively, the outlet’s research found.

He also reportedly owns about 16,000 acres in his home state of Washington, including a 14,500-acre tract in the Horse Heaven Hills region that was purchased for nearly $171 million.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...largest-farmland-owner-in-america-11610818582
 
Apparition said:
Depends on the definition of farmland I guess.

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https://www.agriculture.com/farm-ma...t-who-owns-the-most-land-in-the-united-states

Gates’ portfolio comprises about 242,000 acres of farmland and nearly 27,000 acres of other land across 19 states, according to The Land Report, a magazine for land investors that tracks the nation’s biggest landowners.

The biggest chunks of Gates’ holdings are in Louisiana and Arkansas, where he owns 69,071 acres and 47,927 acres, respectively, the outlet’s research found.

He also reportedly owns about 16,000 acres in his home state of Washington, including a 14,500-acre tract in the Horse Heaven Hills region that was purchased for nearly $171 million.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/b...largest-farmland-owner-in-america-11610818582
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Correct, he is not the largest landowner, only what is considered farmland. Thought I read somewhere that Malone has moved into first place in that category....but could have been dated info.
 
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chili_pepper said:
Correct, he is not the largest landowner, only what is considered farmland. Thought I read somewhere that Malone has moved into first place in that category....but could have been dated info.
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Here’s an interesting one. It’s the largest land owners in Iowa.

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My mom didn’t make the list yet owns more farmland in Iowa than it says Bill does.
 
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chili_pepper said:
I don't put as much stock in Musk as many do, though not suggesting for a second he isn't a very intelligent man. As well, I tend to agree with many of the things I've heard from Peterson. That said, I do not agree with the idea of population collapse being a threat. Interesting that Musk sees it this way, considering some of the innovations he's involved in, as they would seem to have the potential to facilitate the very thing he earmarks as a threat.

As for Gates, I wasn't necessarily aware of his position on the subject. If that is the case, I'm quite sure it's the only thing we would agree on, I see him has one of the most potentially evil individuals alive today and have never been fan of his. Ever.

The bottom line is, the total number of people is not decreasing, it only continues to increase. We know this. It would almost seem like the 10-11 billion calculated max was/is seen as some kind of target, but it was intended as a warning. We have been seeing the effects of hurtling headlong towards this "critical mass" for quite some time now. The more people there are, the more the effects of how we conduct ourselves is amplified, and I feel that can be applied to almost any aspect of human existence on this planet.

Now, if we consider the demographics on who is and isn't reproducing, well, that is a much different (and more sensitive) matter for debate. It would seem there are socioeconomic factors at play here, where some groups are being more thoughtful about reproducing in numbers (if at all) and others have no consideration for the matter...
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Much of the developed world is reproducing at below replacement level. As more of the world becomes "developed" they will catch up and birth rates will drop. The last figures I saw projected we will top out around 9 billion and start declining.

Turns out when people

A) don't need 11 kids to help farm or

B) don't have 11 kids so at least a couple of them make it through childhood disease,

...they tend to stop around 2.

Gates likes stoking fear of overpopulation because he can push his vaccines on the entire developing world in pursuit of encouraging situation B. If it happens in it's own through industrialization and the improvements that come with it, he can't be the hero.

A narcissist with that much money is extremely dangerous...basically a real life Bond villain.
 
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freedom_in_4low said:
Much of the developed world is reproducing at below replacement level. As more of the world becomes "developed" they will catch up and birth rates will drop. The last figures I saw projected we will top out around 9 billion and start declining.

Turns out when people

A) don't need 11 kids to help farm or

B) don't have 11 kids so at least a couple of them make it through childhood disease,

...they tend to stop around 2.

Gates likes stoking fear of overpopulation because he can push his vaccines on the entire developing world in pursuit of encouraging situation B. If it happens in it's own through industrialization and the improvements that come with it, he can't be the hero.

A narcissist with that much money is extremely dangerous...basically a real life Bond villain.
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The Catholic (& Mormon) church isn't helping any.
 
cliffish said:
In FL now and rented a JLU 4 x e for the hell of it. Very plastic inside and the big screen is at a bad angle to see well in the day from the drivers seat. Could of picked a gladiator but did not want n open back for the suitcase.
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Also does not regenerate charge so always show <1% battery so basically an ICE vehicle only. Have not seen 1 charging station yet in Boca
 
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JpZombie said:
Probably won’t matter at this point, even if it’s the best thing ever. Everyone is balls deep in EV and will continue pushing forward no matter what.
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Nothing kills new tech faster than financial losses. Volvo shut down their EV program this morning. Ford has stopped electric f-150 production.
I like parts of the ammonia fuel story, but like electric, you have to go back along the path of energy delivery. As we know, electric powered vehicles don't use electricity out of the air or lighting for power. They use electricity made by burning natural gas, oil, or coal; adding to the air pollution, just in another location.
It seems that ammonia has the same issue. The nitrogen is in the air, but the hydrogen is made by burning methane, the process of which generates most of the bad stuff we are trying to avoid, like CO2 and other pollutants. Still waiting for Mr. Fusion!!
 
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Dr. Internet said:
Nothing kills new tech faster than financial losses. Volvo shut down their EV program this morning. Ford has stopped electric f-150 production.
I like parts of the ammonia fuel story, but like electric, you have to go back along the path of energy delivery. As we know, electric powered vehicles don't use electricity out of the air or lighting for power. They use electricity made by burning natural gas, oil, or coal; adding to the air pollution, just in another location.
It seems that ammonia has the same issue. The nitrogen is in the air, but the hydrogen is made by burning methane, the process of which generates most of the bad stuff we are trying to avoid, like CO2 and other pollutants. Still waiting for Mr. Fusion!!
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Why aren't the climate alarmists advocating to slow population growth? All these new babies are going to want to eat meat, drive cars and sit around in the AC.

The elitists need dumb people, otherwise there will be no one to control.
 

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