Flat Earth
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Hammer24
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Read the first sentence of the headline slowly and REALLY think about it
They are in the same group that believe the earth is only about 4-5000 years old. When you try to have a discussion with them about anything that a clear and open mind would use as an example to the contrary, it is dismissed with a simple "no, it was created and placed there 5000 years ago." Really, you can look at what are obvious upheavals of the earth's crust that show millennia of sedimentary layers with fossils in them and really believe that all happened in what is the geologic equivalent of a few seconds? Alrighty then.
This flat Earth nonsense has been going on for about ten years. Whatever it is, it is just another anti-establishment, anti-intellectual movement to allow the marginalized to have a false position of importance. It has little to do with the shape of the Earth and everything to do with attention grabbing.
There are among the same group that forever try to prove a presupposition despite a lack of evidence.
If the idea of a flat earth becomes acceptable and tolerable, so does the idea that the 6000 year old Earth is supported by an enormous turtle sometimes with the help of some smaller elephants.
It cracks me up to even see flat describing the earth even if it wasn't a globe.
When used as "Flat earth" it's an adjective and means smooth and even; without marked lumps or indentations. Anybody that believes that has never used a Jeep (or anything) to climb a hill, crawl over rocks or try to get through a mud bog.
Maybe they're trying to use it as a noun. That means the flat part of something. If it's just the flat part of the earth, what's the rest of the earth?
Come to think of it, jjvw's picture might work if we turn that earth over and spread the elephants out a little until the edges of the earth sag enough to make the top flat enough to be the flat.
When used as "Flat earth" it's an adjective and means smooth and even; without marked lumps or indentations. Anybody that believes that has never used a Jeep (or anything) to climb a hill, crawl over rocks or try to get through a mud bog.
Maybe they're trying to use it as a noun. That means the flat part of something. If it's just the flat part of the earth, what's the rest of the earth?
Come to think of it, jjvw's picture might work if we turn that earth over and spread the elephants out a little until the edges of the earth sag enough to make the top flat enough to be the flat.
While we do not live on a flat earth, Dr Richard Lewontin, professor of zoology and biology at Harvard until 1998, frankly admitted that the way scientists handle data is not neutral at all, but philosophically motivated by materialism.
"It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”
Of course, this affects their interpretation or manufacturing of data related to the age of the earth (something of which they know not even one millionth of the information available to make such wild speculations). Akin to looking at the weather in Sacramento and telling people what the weather is like on a planet in another galaxy. Dr. Arthur Lovejoy, wrote his treatise, The Great Chain of Being many, many years ago, and it is well-known that modern evolutionary conclusions regarding evolution are nothing more than that same ancient doctrine described in a varied terminology. No more true than the earth is flat.
"It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is an absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.”
Of course, this affects their interpretation or manufacturing of data related to the age of the earth (something of which they know not even one millionth of the information available to make such wild speculations). Akin to looking at the weather in Sacramento and telling people what the weather is like on a planet in another galaxy. Dr. Arthur Lovejoy, wrote his treatise, The Great Chain of Being many, many years ago, and it is well-known that modern evolutionary conclusions regarding evolution are nothing more than that same ancient doctrine described in a varied terminology. No more true than the earth is flat.
Correct. A supernatural explanation is not a scientific explanation. The rest is an effort to support a non-scientific presupposition.
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My family believes that the earth is six thousand years old and dinosaurs was on Noah's ark. Can you imagine what a T rex or Velociraptors would do inside an enclosed ship?
To be scientific, it must be:
Observable, testable, repeatable, and published (in peer reviewed journal).
This will limit scientific claims significantly. E.g. it is not scientific to say the universe is 13.7by old. That’s an extrapolation based on certain measurements.
What is the goal here? Uncertainty does not mean unknowable or undescribable. And it absolutely does not require the supernatural to fill in the gaps of knowledge. Doing so is as anti-scientific as believing in a flat earth. Evidence of a material universe points in clear directions and attempts to undermine and distract does not change where the evidence points.