Fuse #19 (Fuse Block) Cigar Lighter / Accessory Issues

Do you know if those wires are year specific? I’ve been back there in my ‘04 many, many times and I’ve never seen them.
I can confirm those wires exist on both a 98 & 00 TJ. I just found them, thanks @the ebay tj !!

Now I just need to sort out my other issues. Going to try to re-wire to the switched wire and see what happens.
 
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Ok, here's where I'm at. Jeep #1 (98), everything works as you would expect. I wired up some accessories and all the switched fuses/wires work as they should.

Jeep #2 (2000) - This is the Jeep I started this thread for originally...this one seems like its a mess. Electrically everything seems to work; lights, radio, turn signals etc. However, all fuses in the glove box and the separate switched & unstitched wires are all HOT all the time. Now that I think about it, the radio is a little wonky. If you turn the key off real fast and take it out the radio will stay on. If you turn off key slowly and take it out the radio will stay off.

Where would I even begin to look for the issue?? Also, anyone know what the relay in the glove box is for? I attached a few pics.

Maybe I should start a new thread for this?

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Ok, here's where I'm at. Jeep #1 (98), everything works as you would expect. I wired up some accessories and all the switched fuses/wires work as they should.

Jeep #2 (2000) - This is the Jeep I started this thread for originally...this one seems like its a mess. Electrically everything seems to work; lights, radio, turn signals etc. However, all fuses in the glove box and the separate switched & unstitched wires are all HOT all the time. Now that I think about it, the radio is a little wonky. If you turn the key off real fast and take it out the radio will stay on. If you turn off key slowly and take it out the radio will stay off.

Where would I even begin to look for the issue?? Also, anyone know what the relay in the glove box is for? I attached a few pics.

Maybe I should start a new thread for this?

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I hate to say it, you need to sit down with the wiring diagram and look it over. I would pull the radio out to get a good look at everything. Every car I've ever messed with that had an aftermarket alarm had not nice things done to the harness that had unintended consequences.
 
I hate to say it, you need to sit down with the wiring diagram and look it over. I would pull the radio out to get a good look at everything. Every car I've ever messed with that had an aftermarket alarm had not nice things done to the harness that had unintended consequences.
Thats what I was afraid of. Id really like to get this straightened out but I am really a novice when comes to electrical work. It would take me a long time to learn and figure this out. Maybe I'll start with the wiring diagrams and learning how to read those properly. Then slowly start tracing everything back...going to be a loooong project. As I said, everything pretty much works but knowing its not correct is going to drive me crazy.

Actually, maybe I'll start by figuring out how the alarm is connected/wired. I bet if I remove the alarm and restore the original connections that may solve the issue.
 
Thats what I was afraid of. Id really like to get this straightened out but I am really a novice when comes to electrical work. It would take me a long time to learn and figure this out. Maybe I'll start with the wiring diagrams and learning how to read those properly. Then slowly start tracing everything back...going to be a loooong project. As I said, everything pretty much works but knowing its not correct is going to drive me crazy.

Actually, maybe I'll start by figuring out how the alarm is connected/wired. I bet if I remove the alarm and restore the original connections that may solve the issue.
I wish you were near me, electrical is what I do. I could teach you. Starting with removing the alarm and reconnecting everything with good clean connections is the best starting point.
 
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I wish you were near me, electrical is what I do. I could teach you. Starting with removing the alarm and reconnecting everything with good clean connections is the best starting point.
That would have been awesome. I even joked with my wife that I wouldn't mind taking a few basic classes at a local CC or something. Just enough to make me really dangerous...lol.
 
The problem you are describing with the fuse block behind the glove compartment staying Hot could be the Ignition switch; the secondary contacts in the IS supply power to the fuse block.
The switch could cause both of the problem unless the PO did some creative wiring.
There are members that live in the SD area that may be able to lend you a hand troubleshooting your problem.
 
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Thats what I was afraid of. Id really like to get this straightened out but I am really a novice when comes to electrical work. It would take me a long time to learn and figure this out. Maybe I'll start with the wiring diagrams and learning how to read those properly. Then slowly start tracing everything back...going to be a loooong project. As I said, everything pretty much works but knowing its not correct is going to drive me crazy.

Actually, maybe I'll start by figuring out how the alarm is connected/wired. I bet if I remove the alarm and restore the original connections that may solve the issue.
The only way to get good at electrical work is to dive right in start tackling it. I too sucked at electrical work when I bought my tj but being forced to get in there with a tester and start figuring it out for myself has been the best teacher.
 
The problem you are describing with the fuse block behind the glove compartment staying Hot could be the Ignition switch; the secondary contacts in the IS supply power to the fuse block.
The switch could cause both of the problem unless the PO did some creative wiring.
There are members that live in the SD area that may be able to lend you a hand troubleshooting your problem.
This would make a lot of sense. Especially, considering my stereo situation...how it sometimes stays on or off; depending on how you turn the key and remove it.

I'll start to dig into this. Maybe, I'll just replace it and see what happens. Is it literally the switch itself or are there components behind the switch I should look at replacing as well?
 
You have the electronic switch assembly, actuating rod and tumbler assembly that make up your ignitions switch...
The Ignition Switch can be disassembled to remove the electronic switch assembly.
 
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You have the electronic switch assembly, actuating rod and tumbler assembly that make up your ignitions switch...
The Ignition Switch can be disassembled to remove the electronic switch assembly.
I'll go for the trifecta and replace all of them!
 
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The only way to get good at electrical work is to dive right in start tackling it. I too sucked at electrical work when I bought my tj but being forced to get in there with a tester and start figuring it out for myself has been the best teacher.
This, 100%. The wiring diagrams in the FSM can be intimidating, but once you start to use them in small doses, it starts making more sense. But it doesn't get easy until you plow through while it is hard.
 
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I have replaced the actuating rod in my 98. I had the no start issue. That fixed it.