WTH are you talking about.
Talk about selective comprehension, this is what you stated since you seem to have forgotten.
Specifically your comment that the "more surface you clamp, the better it will stop. That simply is not the case and never will be.
Bigger brakes can make a difference but not for the reason you listed. There is far more to it than just more clamp surface. That and I never suggested anything because I very specifically don't do that, ever. I used that kit as an example to demonstrate that pad area has fuck all to do with it. The stock pad surface area and the pad in that kit are very similar in size. Which by the way, is all things being equal, pad area to pad area.
Again, incorrect. They can be very good and my stuff will still be better.
Again, it was an illustration because I know the area of the pad is about the same as a stock pad. Nothing more.
No, you are describing a change in clamping pressure distributed across the face of the pad, not a change in the area of the pad in contact with the rotor swept area.
Wait so you only have BM brakes setup on the front axle? If so that’s definitely less of a blow than what I was thinking 2k front and rear lol. I’ve been heavily considering BM when I need new brakes
Two things, what do you mean?(truly curious). I’ve got a 4.0 manual and I downshift a decent amount in order to brake less.
You might want to make sure he has pads for your Wagoneer application because that will guaranteed use different brakes than anything that came on a factory TJ front axle, or what his big brake kits fit. The big brake kits he sells are to adapt Ford stuff to the TJ axles. The plain pad and rotor kits he sells are stock TJ brake replacement/improvements.
Not just Ford stuff. The bigger kits use Dodge and Ram calipers, pads, and rotors.
As long as you can get everyone on the road, kids with toys between cars, and pedestrians glued to their phones to think the same way, you're golden.
We've discussed how manual owners use their brakes over the years since they are usually the first to hop up and say their brakes are fine in lots of brake discussions. By and large most of the deny downshifting to slow down. Then when I hop in the passenger seat to go for a test drive, there they go, downshifting at every stop. It has become sort of a running joke now since I've busted so many of them lying about it.
You don't have to wait, go lock up the fronts. You'll know if they have sufficient abilities after that. All my stuff is for the TJ and JK inner C.
I knew that. I however, forgot to mention that. I think he’s out of luck with his Waggy axle, although there are probably other solutions for that setup to improve it, and as you said if he hasn’t truly tested it then who knows if he even needs more brake help anyways.
Correct. Only BM pads on the front with Centric rotors. The rear I just have Napa’s premium line.
Ah gotcha okay. Yeah I’ll fully admit I downshift lol.
