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I read your entire report. The roof and pool definitely need attention. The backyard is beautiful and would be great for entertaining. I bet some stories could be told about what has happened back there. 😆
 
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If you can find 10-20 houses to look at, fly down and have your agent show them to you. That will eliminate some of these major issue questions. Plus, you can learn about the area and what area you may want to live in. Get ready for sunshine!
 

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Yes you do. Real estate agents exist for one reason and that's to earn a commission. They say all sorts of shit about caring, serving, helping but it's all about earning. No more no less. Every hour she spends on you is time spent not working with someone else and time not cashing a check So, point is, be very skeptical of "free estimates" from "people she knows". They are her people, not yours, and she wants a deal to close sooner than later.
Real estate agents operate under a very strict code of ethics. Most adhere to that code. Some don't, you can generally tell by how they conduct themselves day to day.
 
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Real estate agents operate under a very strict code of ethics. Most adhere to that code. Some don't, you can generally tell by how they conduct themselves day to day.
Okay, most adhere to a code of ethics while while working for their own advantage. Some don't.
 
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If you can find 10-20 houses to look at, fly down and have your agent show them to you. That will eliminate some of these major issue questions. Plus, you can learn about the area and what area you may want to live in. Get ready for sunshine!
Ha, good luck on that! This is a sellers market. The homes are on the market for an average of 8 days and then they are gone.

Every single one we find is gone in a week. We're prepared to act fast. We loved this one, but that inspection report was damning to say the least.

We're starting to look a little further out, as I don't need to commute since I work from home.
 
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Ha, good luck on that! This is a sellers market. The homes are on the market for an average of 8 days and then they are gone.

Every single one we find is gone in a week. We're prepared to act fast. We loved this one, but that inspection report was damning to say the least.

We're starting to look a little further out, as I don't need to commute since I work from home.
When we came to Spokane in July, it was a sellers market too. We faced the same thing, so I understand. The average home was on the market about 16 days. When we came up we spent 4 days looking at houses. We tried to make an offer on one and it was gone ten minutes before (it was the one on the internet that we loved). Then we made offers on two other homes. One of them the people couldn't agree (even though we offered them $2,000 less than asking price!) The other the realtor was a real problem and we thought she was lying. In the end we settled for something much less $, but that means much more in the long term financial standing for our family. It's tough, hang in there.
 
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When we came to Spokane in July, it was a sellers market too. We faced the same thing, so I understand. The average home was on the market about 16 days. When we came up we spent 4 days looking at houses. We tried to make an offer on one and it was gone ten minutes before (it was the one on the internet that we loved). Then we made offers on two other homes. One of them the people couldn't agree (even though we offered them $2,000 less than asking price!) The other the realtor was a real problem and we thought she was lying. In the end we settled for something much less $, but that means much more in the long term financial standing for our family. It's tough, hang in there.
Yep, I hear you 100%. That's how it is down there as well. I told my realtor I would fly down, but I didn't want to fly down until I had at least 4-5 houses to look at, and currently we only have 2 houses we are interested in. I'm not worried, we'll find a house. It's just that like she told us, "If you find something you want, you'd better be prepared to act very fast!".

The good news is that it's also a sellers market here in Oregon, so once our house gets listed next week, our realtor here is very confident it should sell within 30 days.
 

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Yep, I hear you 100%. That's how it is down there as well. I told my realtor I would fly down, but I didn't want to fly down until I had at least 4-5 houses to look at, and currently we only have 2 houses we are interested in. I'm not worried, we'll find a house. It's just that like she told us, "If you find something you want, you'd better be prepared to act very fast!".

The good news is that it's also a sellers market here in Oregon, so once our house gets listed next week, our realtor here is very confident it should sell within 30 days.
Yeah, I'm also thinking that AZ this time of year is very popular due to the warmer weather. I wonder if in July it switches to a buyers market?
 

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It may, I'll have to ask her about that.
We could ask @ac_. What do you say about the housing market in AZ? In particular, is there a time of year when the house market switches? Chris says it's a sellers market right now. That coudl be understood because of the nicer weather in the winter and all the snowbirds. What about July and August when the heat really pours on? Is it a buyers market then? Slow market? No change? What do you know bro?
 
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We could ask @ac_. What do you say about the housing market in AZ? In particular, is there a time of year when the house market switches? Chris says it's a sellers market right now. That coudl be understood because of the nicer weather in the winter and all the snowbirds. What about July and August when the heat really pours on? Is it a buyers market then? Slow market? No change? What do you know bro?
She told me it's a seller's market right now because the inventory is very low. She said she keeps hoping it will pick back up, and that she usually sees that most people try to list their houses during the summer. So yes, there's a very good chance that come summer, there will be more houses. However, she still doesn't expect it to be a buyer's market, because Arizona is one of the top 5 places people are moving.
 
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People usually want to be in for the upcoming school year. Here in NY where houses stay a bit longer on the market and the lawyers and state make closing a 3-4 month process houses usually sell by May to be in in September.
 

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We could ask @ac_. What do you say about the housing market in AZ? In particular, is there a time of year when the house market switches? Chris says it's a sellers market right now. That coudl be understood because of the nicer weather in the winter and all the snowbirds. What about July and August when the heat really pours on? Is it a buyers market then? Slow market? No change? What do you know bro?
I am not really into real-estate but standard of living here is such that people are buying houses all year. you may get a slightly better deal in the summer because nobody wants to move in the heat, but that is when the flippers buy. those guys work all year and they pay cash. I don't think he will get a better deal in the summer, and he will not want to move then for sure.

Is it too late to try and talk @Chris into not buying a house in a HOA?
 
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I am not really into real-estate but standard of living here is such that people are buying houses all year. you may get a slightly better deal in the summer because nobody wants to move in the heat, but that is when the flippers buy. those guys work all year and they pay cash. I don't think he will get a better deal in the summer, and he will not want to move then for sure.

Is it too late to try and talk @Chris into not buying a house in a HOA?
Considering we are still looking, no, it’s not.
 

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If you like the house I would proceed with getting a professional in there and getting a quote to fix some of the major issues and presenting it to the agent/owners and have them get it repaired or drop price...your inspector did a fine job!.. use it to your advantage... if they won’t, I’m sure there will be another low mileage, all stock Rubicon come your way😉
P.s. I didn’t read entire report, hell I didn’t read all of mine either.... so there may be something I missed..
This.

Maybe you've already moved on, but if not or if you come across this situation again and it's a house you really like, have your agent send the inspection report and contractor bids to the seller's agent before you make a counter offer at a lower price.

Sellers typically have to disclose any known issues with the property, and the usual way to get around that is for the seller to not have a formal inspection. That way the seller can say they were unaware of the issue. By giving the seller your report and estimates you force them to disclose that information to other potential buyers, which gives you an advantage when you're making a lower offer.
 
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This.

Maybe you've already moved on, but if not or if you come across this situation again and it's a house you really like, have your agent send the inspection report and contractor bids to the seller's agent before you make a counter offer at a lower price.

Sellers typically have to disclose any known issues with the property, and the usual way to get around that is for the seller to not have a formal inspection. That way the seller can say they were unaware of the issue. By giving the seller your report and estimates you force them to disclose that information to other potential buyers, which gives you an advantage when you're making a lower offer.
We had an inspection done when we sold, and included it in the Seller’s Disclosure. It picked up a few known issues, as well as a few surprises, which we quickly addressed.

We had a buyer get their own inspection, and it was laughable. They pointed out non-critical issues and things we flatly disagreed with (like grout chipping out between two tiles in the kitchen meant the entire floor was mislaid — in an otherwise flawless 10 year-old job).

They pulled that exact stunt — first ‘threatening’ to formally send our realtor the report... and then they sent it. Only for leverage; we knew what was in the report already.

So we now were forced to add all of this subjective B.S. to the disclosure.

So we did — and then we blackballed the buyer and the buyer’s agent, and reported the agent to the state licensing agency.

And they really wanted our house.

We sold it for a better offer than the one we had countered to them before all that crap started.

So while it is a negotiation tactic, it is also something an experienced realtor will know about. At least here in Texas, it’s considered a tacky, aggressive tactic — and something that can certainly backfire.
 
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We've moved on. The seller offered to fix the stuff, but I don't want to sit around and wait for a pool to get resurfaced, a roof to be repaired, a water heater to be replaced, and for all that other pool equipment to be fixed as well.

We liked the house, but there are others out there, many of which don't have these issues. In speaking with the inspector, the general consensus was that while the house was very nice, it appeared that someone simply didn't take care of it, which shows by the condition it was in.

If you read the report, you'll see a lot of the stuff was minor, which isn't an issue. I expect wear on a house that is 15 years old. However, some of those bigger things simply can't be overlooked, which I'm sure anyone in their right mind would agree with me on.
 
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We daily drive 30 and 15 year-old Jeeps — so am really used to shit breaking — but that house would make me lose sleep at night.

As you pointed out, you can’t always “fix” 10+ years of total neglect.

Good luck on your search!
 

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We just went through this april and had a 56 page report by the end with the only major thing being nitrates in the water. The hard part is that yes you can use it to bargain for fixes or money but you might also turn off the seller.