Parking brake lever experiment

Jeeze, PC - That's sure "How to tell me you are not following my build thread, without telling me you are not following my build thread...)

:)

Just messin' with you, of course.

Not to derail Blaine's thread too far, but yes, I run a 14 bolt. I'm messing with you because I just went through a lengthy and painful regear after smoking a ring gear, and just wrapped it up a few days ago .

What year 14 bolt are you running? I run the newer style (2003+ or so I think) with the stock disc brakes and drum in hat e-brake. I run all stock style dual piston GM calipers, rotor, and e-brake setup, and have never had any issue at all with fitment, or finding parts.

That kit looks interesting, and I've not seen it before. I'll have to check it out.
I did see some of your regear fun, glad you got it back together - hopefully the gears hold up better than the old ones! I think what I meant was are you running a "Factory disc" 14B...

I mentioned the EPB kit as it uses 2019+ Silverado/SUV (1/2 ton) parts, which are quite common. I found two sets of take-off calipers for $100, one set from a Silverado and one set from a Tahoe (they're the same, except for the location of the brake banjo), basically brand new with less than 100 miles. When I built my 14B, I also used the OEM brake setup (mine is a 2002 model year). I ended up modifying a set of (new) backing plates, installing "Ram" AAM parking brake levers with the hopes of being able to use OEM Mopar cables designed for the "Mopar Performance" Dana 60 rears.

The Mopar cables fit, but leave a lot to be desired in terms of length. There are two different sizes, and neither is great (one is 5" too long, and the other 5" too short for ideal routing). The JK brake lever is also notoriously failure prone. Had I know the EPB kit was an option from the start, I would likely have gone that route from the get-go. Since you mentioned the E-STOP kit, I thought it would be worth mentioned an alternative since the cost is fairly low and installation seems like a cake walk...

What are you doing for a master? The 1500 EPB is a 51mm piston so a bit oversize from stock.

Their info is slightly off. Not all the EPB stuff is that strong. When I was working with Pantera, I sent over a lot of the force readings we gathered from the Toy EPB and he said we were the only ones he had ever dealt with who actually tested anything. Most of his stuff is set up for the Tesla style EPB caliper which are not very strong comparatively since they are for small vehicles. That would not be true for the 1500 which "should" be designed to hold the max GVWR. I'd use it in a heartbeat to save a ton of money if the piston were smaller.
I went with the J8 kit (an actual, Mopar J8 kit), which I believe is a 1-1/8" master (vs the OEM JK 1") and includes a bigger booster. The two people I know that have installed a 14B rear with UD60 front have both said that the J8 was a night and day difference in brake feel, giving them both OEM feel and travel.

The 14B I have is the later, OEM-disc brake, "ribbed" housing, which uses the 2-piston style rear calipers. I'm not sure of the piston diameter but am seeing 40mm, 48mm, 58mm, and 60mm listed online. Though I'd have to go measure them to be certain, I'd guess the 40-48mm is the more accurate number. I know the factory 14B rear calipers have pistons that are larger than the UD60 rear calipers (which are ~2009-2017 Ram 2500 calipers). Hopefully the numbers work out and the brakes feel as good or better than they otherwise would have. From one person that I trust and who has used the Range Industries EPB kit on a 14B (though not on a JK), they appear to be well matched and do indeed hold very well.
 
I did see some of your regear fun, glad you got it back together - hopefully the gears hold up better than the old ones! I think what I meant was are you running a "Factory disc" 14B...

I mentioned the EPB kit as it uses 2019+ Silverado/SUV (1/2 ton) parts, which are quite common. I found two sets of take-off calipers for $100, one set from a Silverado and one set from a Tahoe (they're the same, except for the location of the brake banjo), basically brand new with less than 100 miles. When I built my 14B, I also used the OEM brake setup (mine is a 2002 model year). I ended up modifying a set of (new) backing plates, installing "Ram" AAM parking brake levers with the hopes of being able to use OEM Mopar cables designed for the "Mopar Performance" Dana 60 rears.

The Mopar cables fit, but leave a lot to be desired in terms of length. There are two different sizes, and neither is great (one is 5" too long, and the other 5" too short for ideal routing). The JK brake lever is also notoriously failure prone. Had I know the EPB kit was an option from the start, I would likely have gone that route from the get-go. Since you mentioned the E-STOP kit, I thought it would be worth mentioned an alternative since the cost is fairly low and installation seems like a cake walk...


I went with the J8 kit (an actual, Mopar J8 kit), which I believe is a 1-1/8" master (vs the OEM JK 1") and includes a bigger booster. The two people I know that have installed a 14B rear with UD60 front have both said that the J8 was a night and day difference in brake feel, giving them both OEM feel and travel.

The 14B I have is the later, OEM-disc brake, "ribbed" housing, which uses the 2-piston style rear calipers. I'm not sure of the piston diameter but am seeing 40mm, 48mm, 58mm, and 60mm listed online. Though I'd have to go measure them to be certain, I'd guess the 40-48mm is the more accurate number. I know the factory 14B rear calipers have pistons that are larger than the UD60 rear calipers (which are ~2009-2017 Ram 2500 calipers). Hopefully the numbers work out and the brakes feel as good or better than they otherwise would have. From one person that I trust and who has used the Range Industries EPB kit on a 14B (though not on a JK), they appear to be well matched and do indeed hold very well.

You should dig up that J8 booster I have for sale in the for sale section and snag a spare. There weren't many out there last I looked.