You may not die by not ingesting carbs, but you will live a miserable, less healthy, unsatisfying life
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You may not die by not ingesting carbs, but you will live a miserable, less healthy, unsatisfying life
There are some things they help with that’s why you have them in moderation but shouldn’t at the levels we currently do.
I disagree, at least depending on how 'moderation' is defined; my carb intake hovers around 60% of total calories 7 days a week & I maintain somewhere in the neighborhood of sub-15% body fat.
I do agree that they should be eaten in moderation IF they are shitty forms of highly processed carbs rather than whole plant based complex fiber bomb carbs...
I'm not a believer in restrictive diets, whether its the full blown carnivore diet or 180 degrees on the flipside with the vegan diet. Sure you can live those ways, but what a miserable life that would be, at least for me...
Just like so many things that have gone into the shitter in the last 30 years, I blame the phoooone...
Milk , bread , pasta , potato's were what I eliminated . I didn't real have any of the other things you had as examples .
When I was a carb Nazi , my cholesterol was 112 and the HDL was 90 . You don't get hungry and you have a ton of energy .
I think it’s those other things that cause most of the problems in the US (& around the world as the American diet has been exported), that and portion control, or the lack thereof more accurately.
I look at the whole topic from a sustainability perspective. There are probably a million & one diets that can get one to their goals, but can it be maintained & is it healthy for the long term…
If an all-Krispy Kreme donut diet was a thing it would sound amazing (that shit is like crack & fentanyl with a heroin chaser to me), but I doubt I could maintain it more than a few days let alone a lifetime.
I need balance, I want a steak for dinner, but I also want a baked potato next to it & a salad or some broccoli on the side followed by some fresh cantaloupe, honeydew & assorted berries for dessert. When I eat like that I don't gain weight, my numbers are good, I need zero medications, I’m never hungry, and every craving for protein, carbs and fat is satisfied, including the sweet tooth. Now I also eat equally reasonably the rest of the day and have a very active lifestyle, with that my weight hasn’t fluctuated more than +/- 5lbs since I was a teenager. Granted, during my hard partying/eating days I was on the + side of that equation, but that’s still a pretty tight parameter, while most of my homies from back in the day are probably closer to +50.
I'm sure it hasn't helped, but the blubberization of America was well underway before this now infamous moment in 2007; and I apologize in advance if this thumbnail gives @Zorba a chubber:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hjs2ZR1tIw8
I have maybe...maybe one or two sodas a year, and even that's a rare occurrence. Just tastes like sugar water to me. I'm much more partial to seltzer water (lower sodium than club soda) and Perrier. I used to drink both Saratoga Vichy and Quevic Vichy in my youth, but both of those are no longer produced (naturally carbonated mineral water from my hometown of Saratoga Springs, New York).
For everyday drinking I have regular old water .
If'n I could only drink one thing for the rest of my life, it would be cold water. Love it! Ain't nothin' better!
I fully believe it's not so much the kinds of foods we eat, as it is the processing that has gone into the production of those foods... Kennedy and many other people in the medical industry have pointed out as much. If you look at the kinds of processed foods the USDA allows that other countries have flat out banned, that in itself is extremely telling.
I had an Uncle that was type 2 diabetic for YEARS and relied on pills to control his blood sugar. He loved food to, but he didn't buy a lot of processed foods other than breads and uncooked pastas. Lunch meats and cheeses were always deli fresh not prepackaged. He prepared all his and my Aunt's meals. He was pretty physically active, always outside working on their property, cutting trees down, removing over growth, etc.
They ended up buying some property in Fiji, a plantation, and he moved over there for a year to learn how to run the plantation. Within 4 months of being there he was completely off his diabetic medication, yet he never changed the kids of foods he ate. The key difference is the breads and pastas they got in Fiji were all made fresh not commercially.
If'n I could only drink one thing for the rest of my life, it would be cold water. Love it! Ain't nothin' better!
Best water I ever tasted came out of the well spigot that was right next to the cow yard at the neighbors place back home.
Of course, that was also mostly drank when we got back after hand loading several wagons of small square hay....
that's a bit anecdotal, as is admittedly much of my personal story, another part of which is this: my family is purely Italian immigrants and descendants, myself included. I've eaten bread and/or pasta 7 days a week since the beginning of time and will continue to the end of time, this is part of the reason I shudder when I hear the words 'low carb'
. While I've always also baked bread and made pasta by hand, the majority of it has been commercially produced due to time & convenience considerations. It wasn't until Covid & the yeast & bread shortages that I first discovered homemade sourdough & it's been so good that I haven't purchased a loaf of bread in 6 years now. But the vacillation between store bought & homemade throughout time has had no discernable impact at least in terms of weight management, & certainly never caused any need for diabetic medication. If'n I could only drink one thing for the rest of my life, it would be cold water. Love it! Ain't nothin' better!
it's no secret that a great many of the excess calories people take in come from beverages, a simple switch to water would be a great start for many. I drink water, black coffee & unsweetened iced tea
My grandmother used to walk a couple of miles from her trailer to a natural spring that came out of the mountains (upstate New York). She'd carry a couple of glass jugs and fill them up, then make the trek back home. The spring was always flowing, even in the harshest of winters, and as Gramma didn't have a working well for a few years, that was her only source of water. It was a different day and age back then. Gramma was poor. But it ended well. Many years later, my uncle bought a Harley, and he told Gramma that if she'd buy him a leather jacket, he'd build her a house. She did, and so, he did. A nice two-story, three-bedroom place. For years he would remark how that was the world's most expensive leather jacket.
*Sorry...just brought back a lot of memories.
You had a ton of energy because your body switches to using fat as its primary energy source instead of carbs. Fat is more energy dense and most people carry plenty of it around already.
My grandmother used to walk a couple of miles from her trailer to a natural spring that came out of the mountains (upstate New York). She'd carry a couple of glass jugs and fill them up, then make the trek back home. The spring was always flowing, even in the harshest of winters, and as Gramma didn't have a working well for a few years, that was her only source of water. It was a different day and age back then. Gramma was poor. But it ended well. Many years later, my uncle bought a Harley, and he told Gramma that if she'd buy him a leather jacket, he'd build her a house. She did, and so, he did. A nice two-story, three-bedroom place. For years he would remark how that was the world's most expensive leather jacket.
*Sorry...just brought back a lot of memories.
Where I grew up in Iowa we had well water. It was a 25’ deep sand point that produced the best water I’ve ever had.
Friends used to ask me to bring an extra water jug for them when I played baseball.
Then rural water came through and we hooked up and it was never the same.
Yup , your body is more than capable of converting fats into carbs . Either fat from your gut or fat from meat and real cheese .
Yes our two stories are anecdotal, but many dieticians will actually back up what I am describing. Cutting out all the artificial fillers, starches, preservatives, etc., etc., makes for a much healthier and happier body. The kidneys especially. That doesn't mean cutting carbs or rejecting certain types of food, just sourcing those foods from 100% natural ingredients.that's a bit anecdotal, as is admittedly much of my personal story, another part of which is this: my family is purely Italian immigrants and descendants, myself included. I've eaten bread and/or pasta 7 days a week since the beginning of time and will continue to the end of time, this is part of the reason I shudder when I hear the words 'low carb'
it's no secret that a great many of the excess calories people take in come from beverages, a simple switch to water would be a great start for many. I drink water, black coffee & unsweetened iced tea
What's weird is , what works great for one person is terrible for the someone else . Just eat what's good for you , is what I say . Well that and , " Party on Garth ".
All of us take things too serious .
What's weird is , what works great for one person is terrible for the someone else . Just eat what's good for you , is what I say . Well that and , " Party on Garth ".
All of us take things too serious .
"Party on Wayne"
The problem I'd have with having homemade bread around all the time is that I'd probably eat a loaf a day.
