If I was looking for more approach angle, the TNT kit would be my go to. A 3 inch stretch to take advantage of the approach angle via the wheelbase stretch is ideal IMO.
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Raising the front frame, bumper and steering box
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IIRC, Motobilt had announced not long ago that they were bringing a front half kit to the market. It looked like it raised it 4 inches. I don't think it supported a gear box, its more setup for the owner who wants a stretch, 4 links, and full hydro.
Are you hi lined?
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took me a few to really notice what that kit does to get that box level. it's a good bit of work,
your pic, with the cut mark: my hesitation would be, what the transition to reconnect would look like. not being flat and level would make it hard to mask.
if i really wanted this. i'd find the level line point on the top of the frame that negates the BL.
from that point i'd cut the frame straight down to the ground, 90*. then it's all flat material, from the point of the cut forward. nice clean tie easy enough to strong back (fishplate).
then do as that kit does and bump the frame tie tube out to the end, and then you could flatten the gear out.
taking the gear flat would push the DL connection to the pitman down and forward several inches, and then lifting the gear would get it back.
then your on the spot now for are you just tucking the gear or stretching the front end, cause those mount spots are different.
the for vote, would be your own words, it'd make your 33's like 35's, and it would make 35's like 37's. and your gears tucked away.
cons, it's a ton of work to tuck the gear if your not gonna stretch and/or your on the hook for a lot more work if your gonna stretch.
your pic, with the cut mark: my hesitation would be, what the transition to reconnect would look like. not being flat and level would make it hard to mask.
if i really wanted this. i'd find the level line point on the top of the frame that negates the BL.
from that point i'd cut the frame straight down to the ground, 90*. then it's all flat material, from the point of the cut forward. nice clean tie easy enough to strong back (fishplate).
then do as that kit does and bump the frame tie tube out to the end, and then you could flatten the gear out.
taking the gear flat would push the DL connection to the pitman down and forward several inches, and then lifting the gear would get it back.
then your on the spot now for are you just tucking the gear or stretching the front end, cause those mount spots are different.
the for vote, would be your own words, it'd make your 33's like 35's, and it would make 35's like 37's. and your gears tucked away.
cons, it's a ton of work to tuck the gear if your not gonna stretch and/or your on the hook for a lot more work if your gonna stretch.
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Motobilt released their TJ front frame half kit. Raises the front half of the frame up and in.
Motobilt released their TJ front frame half kit. Raises the front half of the frame up and in.
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I need to find some pics of the front half of the WOD TJ tube chassis, they offer an option to allow a three link front w/ a track bar and a steering box while still maintaing the uptravel and room outside the rails for c/o’s. I would love to see how they make it all work. Then again, they do this kind of problem solving all day long.
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As I stated in post #42.
Before I claim it’s preconceived. Are you saying the frame and winch pose an issue with overheating?
post 42 was 20dys ago i didn't go back up that far, sorry i missed it.
i have no idea if it would cause issue, but the top 1/2 of that radiator is blocked by the PS fluid cooler the rest is covered by winch.
i have no idea if it would cause issue, but the top 1/2 of that radiator is blocked by the PS fluid cooler the rest is covered by winch.
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They need to spend more time on their suspension geometry. Looks like they copied a bolt on long arm kit.
Full hydro set up. 4 linked double triangulation. No need for the steering box or trackbar etc
Regearing the steering box... There should be some advantages to that on a crawler. Personally, I'd do the same thing retrieving parts, take the entire assembly as long as the price is the same.
Nice bait. They use rough country stuff. It looks exactly like that long arm kit Jerry always talks about getting away from on his old Jeep.
that kit is so very limited to the people they are marketing to.
if they would use solid tube and take the ramp off the end they could open that up to more buyers being able to adapt it to more builds. IMO
if they would use solid tube and take the ramp off the end they could open that up to more buyers being able to adapt it to more builds. IMO
Well it is a kit, so any buyer could modify it anyway they desire. Remember, we are talking custom fabrication here.
Why did they ramp the end up like that?
i'd assume, for clearance into an obstacle.
but i'd also assume that a guy running a smaller wheel could benefit more from such a mod. than someone that's running 40's would need.
but it's a stretch to justify full hydro for 35's on a TJ, or finding the room to configure a triangulated 4 link up front (LA at that). that's why the 3 link is preferred, no?
and i know a little about fabrication, and could make that into whatever i need , but that's a lot of work and $ for what i could do with much cheaper w/boxed tube. and retain my steering gear and TB.
just stating they are limiting sales to a special group of builders, not an all around mod most could incorporate.
i'm no daisy , spit it out if i'm way off base here.
but i'd also assume that a guy running a smaller wheel could benefit more from such a mod. than someone that's running 40's would need.
but it's a stretch to justify full hydro for 35's on a TJ, or finding the room to configure a triangulated 4 link up front (LA at that). that's why the 3 link is preferred, no?
and i know a little about fabrication, and could make that into whatever i need , but that's a lot of work and $ for what i could do with much cheaper w/boxed tube. and retain my steering gear and TB.
just stating they are limiting sales to a special group of builders, not an all around mod most could incorporate.
i'm no daisy , spit it out if i'm way off base here.
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On a stock frame TJ with a normal engine and exhaust placement, there isn't room for a triangulated 4 link.
From what I gather, JK's do a rear 3 link + track bar for similar problems of packaging.
From what I gather, JK's do a rear 3 link + track bar for similar problems of packaging.
