Yeah Long Island is wacky high just like NJ. In 2015 just before moving our taxes in Monmouth County NJ were 15K plus for a 3 BR 2800 sq ft home on 1/4 acre. My parents close by 15 years ago were 25K for a high end 2BR on 3 acres.
The grass is greener, get the F out of your home state thread
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I detest property taxes far more than any other kind of tax...
This would cost 8-10 million in my area.
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I don't blame you on avoiding the HOA. The HOA at my house there in the northern burbs started very reasonable and managed the master-planned community well. The management company was responsive, the landscape impeccable, and the dues did not rise for 8 years ...
... then the management company changed, board elections were held, and the Fourth Reich was put in place. Mulch too thin or wrong color, leaves in the planter, dingy concrete driveway, tree improperly pruned? ... nastygram and a fine! How about a new uniform mailbox among the 20+ subdivisions in the community ... $550! I had to replace a dozen or so double-hung windows that had wood rot so I prepared the application and included the product spec sheets, purposely choosing the window which was recommended in the modification review packet. Wait for it ... three weeks later my application was denied because the width of the frame was 1/4" too wide. Can't make this stuff up! Getting bad flashbacks.
Back on topic, you can find plenty of homes without HOAs. Atlanta does have a mountain... Stone Mountain
Hot Damn! That is quite a property. Wonder what's going on with the massive price cut though. Maybe they pulled back on the acreage that goes with the house to 'only' 60 acres?
There are two kinds of HOAs. In-effective and Nazis. There are no other types - if they're being reasonable, they're in transition between the two states.
Has it been mentioned uptrend:
Maintaining that sprawling 5000sf Georgia/Alabama/Arkansas mansion you bought after selling your coastal home is going to kill you financially and physically.
Once you get to empty nest you begin to realize less is more. Less shit, less house, less continually taxable items.*
*(Doesn't apply to open land, or shop space
)
Maintaining that sprawling 5000sf Georgia/Alabama/Arkansas mansion you bought after selling your coastal home is going to kill you financially and physically.
Once you get to empty nest you begin to realize less is more. Less shit, less house, less continually taxable items.*
*(Doesn't apply to open land, or shop space
)
I mean, I hate paying taxes just like every other republi...I mean person, but without those taxes, you'd just have a house...no schools, no roads, no running water, no sewer, no police/fire, no clinics, and definitely no stimulus checks when global pandemics break out (that's a sore subject of mine). Kinda just got to get on board with that...or escape to the deep Appalachians and live 100% off the grid...sounds appealing, but I'm not terribly interested in digging my own water well and going back to the 1800s as far as living conditions go - some people will remember the game Oregon Trail...little Jimmy was always catching something and ending up dead in the wagon.
Taxes in CA suuuuccccckkkkk. When we were in Irvine a few years ago, I was paying something like 40%+ in taxes all around on income. Housing costs were astronomical as well. 2700 sq/ft with 3 car garage, and about 10ft of depth in my backyard from my back door, with my neighbors all on top of me...$1,400,000 - no effing joke - don't get me started on the Mello-Roos tax in Irvine. We moved back to AZ after we shut the biz down - grew up here/etc. 4100 sq/ft, larger lot, pool/spa, entertaining style backyard, and massive 3-car garage to build my shop in...$465,000 (at least that is what we paid in 2018).
Arizona is a great state, but housing prices are on the rise due to all the influx of people from CA, NY, PA, and MA moving in to escape higher housing/living costs - etc. I don't know if you noticed, but during this election cycle, AZ flipped from red to blue...likely due to the influx of all those people. So there's that - aaannnnddd we'll see how that goes. It's also hot AF in the summer - felt like it was 115 degrees for like 2 solid months this past summer. However, fuel costs are generally on the low side, perishable food is cheaper than average, public schools aren't the best statewide (private/charter are great tho), I can conceal carry just about anywhere without permit, most of our family live here, and its 1.5-2 hours north to the pines, 3 hours south for international beaches, or 6 hours west to CA if you want to just visit for a minute (our oldest still lives in Orange County). There are lots of jobs here...construction, tech, and just about anything else you can imagine.
I don't want to move - absolutely love my house (cause my shop, duh), love my community, love my neighbors, etc...but if I were to look elsewhere, it'd be Montana or Idaho. Those states align with what our family values.
Taxation is theft.I mean, I hate paying taxes just like every other republi...I mean person, but without those taxes, you'd just have a house...no schools, no roads, no running water, no sewer, no police/fire, no clinics, and definitely no stimulus checks when global pandemics break out (that's a sore subject of mine). Kinda just got to get on board with that...or escape to the deep Appalachians and live 100% off the grid...sounds appealing, but I'm not terribly interested in digging my own water well and going back to the 1800s as far as living conditions go - some people will remember the game Oregon Trail...little Jimmy was always catching something and ending up dead in the wagon.
Taxes in CA suuuuccccckkkkk. When we were in Irvine a few years ago, I was paying something like 40%+ in taxes all around on income. Housing costs were astronomical as well. 2700 sq/ft with 3 car garage, and about 10ft of depth in my backyard from my back door, with my neighbors all on top of me...$1,400,000 - no effing joke - don't get me started on the Mello-Roos tax in Irvine. We moved back to AZ after we shut the biz down - grew up here/etc. 4100 sq/ft, larger lot, pool/spa, entertaining style backyard, and massive 3-car garage to build my shop in...$465,000 (at least that is what we paid in 2018).
Arizona is a great state, but housing prices are on the rise due to all the influx of people from CA, NY, PA, and MA moving in to escape higher housing/living costs - etc. I don't know if you noticed, but during this election cycle, AZ flipped from red to blue...likely due to the influx of all those people. So there's that - aaannnnddd we'll see how that goes. It's also hot AF in the summer - felt like it was 115 degrees for like 2 solid months this past summer. However, fuel costs are generally on the low side, perishable food is cheaper than average, public schools aren't the best statewide (private/charter are great tho), I can conceal carry just about anywhere without permit, most of our family live here, and its 1.5-2 hours north to the pines, 3 hours south for international beaches, or 6 hours west to CA if you want to just visit for a minute (our oldest still lives in Orange County). There are lots of jobs here...construction, tech, and just about anything else you can imagine.
I don't want to move - absolutely love my house (cause my shop, duh), love my community, love my neighbors, etc...but if I were to look elsewhere, it'd be Montana or Idaho. Those states align with what our family values.
Mello-Roos, HOA, Property Tax....it never ends and ultimately is the cost of a mortgage in another state by itself. "I can't get behind that." (To quote William Shatner) I can choose not to live HOA. I can also choose to develop on a chunk of land so my tax assessment is nill...until it's not.
I see zero lot line housing going up like weeds here in CA. All in HOA and double the cost it should be. People pay it, though. I'm a Capitalist; for sure. Something has to be done about this whole human nature thing. I get it. I know what taxes pay for. Out here in CA, it pays for a street I had to fight the city five years to pave after chunks of asphalt were being kicked up onto my driveway by passing cars. It pays for schools that actively teach my children to be pussies. It pays for Nuclear Free Zone signs at the entry roads on all sides of the City. It pays for the master plan redesign we paid a consulting group 500k to do that I could have done for free in a weekend. It pays for crumbling infrastructure and a City Council that cares more about art than logistics. We have a a City Council member that legitimately can't understand why everyone isn't forced to ride their bike to work for the good of the planet. Mind you I live in a semi-rural City. I live in a City that first banned leaf blowers (yes, even electric leaf blowers) because they blow particulates in the air and can harm people who have sensitivities. Then went on to ban small combustion engines (my lawnmower) under the guise of emergency environmentalism. This is the shit our tax dollars go to.
Well I didn't say that those taxes would be used appropriately...
They banned electric leaf blowers?!?! That's a bit much...are they going to ban the wind as well? What about the disruption of air caused by vehicles driving down the road?! Those kick up particles as well...
Man...I'd be livid...
Well I didn't say that those taxes would be used appropriately...
They banned electric leaf blowers?!?! That's a bit much...are they going to ban the wind as well? What about the disruption of air caused by vehicles driving down the road?! Those kick up particles as well...
I brought up that very subject. How about vehicle/semi traffic? They heard from the landscapers, and an 80 year old lady who lived alone on her two acre property and told them she couldn't go outside and use a broom to clean up the leaves from the ten or fifteen trees around her home. They smiled, said they support the elderly, diverse community this and that, appreciate your feedback, and then proceeded to immediately and unanimously pass the ordinance without discussion.Well I didn't say that those taxes would be used appropriately...
They banned electric leaf blowers?!?! That's a bit much...are they going to ban the wind as well? What about the disruption of air caused by vehicles driving down the road?! Those kick up particles as well...
Did I mention that the City was exempt from their own ordinance? Of course, they went and purchased over 50k worth of battery powered landscaping equipment....with tax dollars.
As you can see, it's a sore subject with me.
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Rubicon John
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No kidding. And now this lunacy is coming to the national stage, 4 years after I escaped from it.
As for the ones who moan about how property tax pays for this and that - that's fine. Raise sales or even income tax to cover that, NOT MY HOUSE!
Harris has said that California is the way the entire nation should strive to be and her plan is to push that.
So yeah, the lunacy will spread.
That's exactly my nightmare. She worked TIRELESSLY against the citizens when she was AG. Kamel-Toe "Microstamping" Harris...
The only thing Commiefornia is a model for is failure
Oh, and corruption, let's not forget corruption
Oh, and corruption, let's not forget corruption
Blackiosh
Member
Sounds like they may outlaw wind next.Well I didn't say that those taxes would be used appropriately...
They banned electric leaf blowers?!?! That's a bit much...are they going to ban the wind as well? What about the disruption of air caused by vehicles driving down the road?! Those kick up particles as well...
I once lived in Orange County and then moved to Arizona. The state turning blue is bothering me because the high taxes will soon follow. Tucson is run by leftist and we have the highest taxes in the state with the worst roads and services. In 2019, I was at the Irvine Spectrum and saw the restaurants and stores packed. Knowing how much property and payroll taxes are and seeing the booming economy, I just shook my head because even with all of that tax revenue coming in, it is never enough for the politicians in Sacramento. I have no problem paying taxes for roads, pubic safety, schools, etc, but the politicians will never allow us to dare have extra money in our pockets. Something has to change.