The grass is greener, get the F out of your home state thread

[Rick Flair]

We have a six month plan at this point.

My parents are coming as well. Will have a nice “compound” soon enough.

Plenty of places with 40-100 acres we can buy and be left the fuck alone. I’m not a liberal. I plan to put my middle finger up to this swarm and will have my nice own private range. Ya’ll can have the coasts.



This state is done.

 

[ejay]

I'll take what I can get. At this point what ever it takes not to be on top of my neighbor that wants my paycheck via tax proxy. Montana is looking pretty nice even if its under snow as long as I can randomly fire in every direction and not kill somebody. Sticker on my Jeep has read below for ten years anyway....

 

[ejay]

Although I've already started applying to a few choice jobs, it's probably not wise to move to Montana in the winter.

 

[ejay]

Christ, the price of housing in Bozeman is out of hand compared to the rest of the state. I guess since it's so close to Yellowstone and is a University town? Better job market there, maybe. Three times the cost of comparable housing elsewhere in the State.

 

[Zorba]

Christ, the price of housing in Bozeman is out of hand compared to the rest of the state. I guess since it's so close to Yellowstone and is a University town? Better job market there, maybe. Three times the cost of comparable housing elsewhere in the State.

Having looked at real estate in a lot of places in a lot of states, two things will raise the price to stratospheric levels: Being in a college town and an in-development golf course.

 

[jeepguy03]

Having looked at real estate in a lot of places in a lot of states, two things will raise the price to stratospheric levels: Being in a college town and an in-development golf course.

Neither of which you want to live near.

 

[Zorba]

Neither of which you want to live near.

Exactly.

 

[06lj]

This state is done.

Can't agree more. It is really sad because Oregon is a stunningly beautiful place. We will be leaving the state by June. We would have left last spring but the job my wife had lined up was canceled due to Coronavirus. We were left unemployed and spent a month living in our camper and with family before my wife found a job. We are still waiting for unemployed that was first filled in May. At this point my hopes of ever seeing it have all but vanished.

 

[zebra12]

Neither of which you want to live near.

My home in Oregon is in a college town. We celebrate when school gets out and the kids go home.


I'd live on a golf course, I would want to be greenside or at least 300 yards from a tee box and on the left side of the fairway.

 

[Justemptyeverypocket]

Western Slope —> Montrose area

Found the houses affordable, cheaper taxes, and friendly welcoming town

Hey I live near montrose (rifle)

 

[Justemptyeverypocket]

A lot of truth in that, though none of the gun laws they passed have any teeth. The magazine ban is completely unenforceable. I have a dozen or more 30rd magpuls that I had owned before it passed, and of all the time I've spent at ranges and NF I've not once (nor do I know anybody who has) been asked about magazines.

It might also help that I live in a county with a conservative sheriff that has no qualms about coming right out and announcing that his department has more important things to do than enforcing Denver's nonsense.

I used to think about Idaho, but I keep hearing the liberals are heading there now and it's going to be the next Colorado. That leaves Wyoming, Montana, and Alaska as the only remaining states I have any interest in living in, and none of them have huge job markets outside of oil/gas which is not my area.

Good hopefully they all leave colorado because I'm sure not gonna

 

[Justemptyeverypocket]

I don't know of a specific area of Colorado that I'd call the new Florida. It's just something I've heard from those that live there, those that moved there, and from people out here. No offense intended. As I stated, I have extended in-laws that moved there. I don't miss them.

I've got to have mountains. Pretty sure I have to have mountains. Pretty naive in regard to brutal winters. There are times I'd trade the beach and the triple digit days for snow. I used to be a beach guy. I was a surfer in high school and I've been an avid diver for a while now though I don't dive as much as I used to. I'd give the ocean up in a blink for a better housing market, better local politics, and better cost of living. Not asking to be surrounded by people that think just like me but sometimes I think there's something in the water here. (Crazies)

Idaho doesn't want us. Have friends that moved to a suburb of Boise and the housing/job market is about the same here. Plus, they are getting flooded by California Liberals. Beautiful state, though.

Wyoming appeals quite a bit due to the following. Industries that my wife and I work in at times pay not much less than here. (Not always the case) Housing market is awesome. Local politics are great. But right now there aren't many jobs available. Jackson is nice but damn it's expensive. I live in a tourist town so I get it. Casper and Gillette appeal but as I understand it those cities are on the plains. I've read in more than one place that Casper is really trying to get more families to move in. I'm no cowboy but I know my way around a ranch.

Montana is pretty similar to Wyoming but crappier job market and colder weather as I understand it. Some of my Norwegian/Swedish ancestors that didn't stay in Wisconsin moved to Libby.

Arizona is nice politically. I have a good friend that moved there off the grid. Job market pays dick compared to California and places like Flagstaff the housing is about the same as here. Further North you go the better the climate but the worse the job market.

I know little about Nebraska. My grandfathers brother (great uncle?) lives there. Don't they have a serious tornado problem there?

I know little about South Dakota other than what I've learned on the internet. Highest suicide, high DUI fatalities, high divorce rate, shitty job market, bleh scenery for a lot of the State.

Utah has some beautiful areas in the South but no job market as I see it.

We all have bullet points we would like to check when looking but I'm a realist. I understand that I'd for sure be giving up some things to gain other things. I'm no freeloader, though, either. Pretty diverse in my job background. I volunteer as a Commissioner in the City I live in as a Civic duty (it's an uphill battle) to make sure lazy politicians actually get things done and not over regulate the local populous. Like so many other people, I'd like to afford to buy a house, have a job I enjoy, have the chance to save some money, be friendly with the neighbors, or be left alone should I desire that too, not have my children indoctrinated with a batshit philosophy at public school, and have surroundings that I enjoy. Can't have it all, though.

Come to colorado western slope it's not a liberal shit hole like the rest of the state has become and there's a ton of wheeling to do

 

[1J4FY]

Christ, the price of housing in Bozeman is out of hand compared to the rest of the state. I guess since it's so close to Yellowstone and is a University town? Better job market there, maybe. Three times the cost of comparable housing elsewhere in the State.

Have you checked Billings? I have an in-law who did the CA to MT via UT move years ago and she really enjoys it. Housing is more costly than you think, but certainly much cheaper than CA. That said, prepare for real winters.

I would strongly suggest looking into unincorporated Forsyth County, GA. Your money can still go a long way there. The public schools are excellent as are nearby medical facilities and healthcare. Lake Lanier is right there if you like boating and fishing. No city property tax and taxes overall are reasonable. Gas is cheap as is electricity and natural gas. Food is generally much less expensive than it is in CA. Winters are comparatively mild. Perhaps you’ll get a dusting of snow every year and a periodic dump of up to 6” every handful of years which melts within hours to a few days. Year-round rain keeps things pretty green and clean most of the year. You can drive a few hours in any direction and be in another state. You’re close enough but not too close to a major airport and city with all the attractions you would expect. Traffic is pretty light in most of Forsyth except on SR400 near Fulton County. You can pickup the metro in the northern burbs which will take you anywhere you want to go downtown or even to the airport on the south side of the city. Shopping, dining, and entertainment are nearby and plentiful. There were plenty of good jobs and industry when I left. You would definitely enjoy the gun laws; they issue concealed carry in most Crackerjack boxes. Haha. I knew others who had no issue obtaining their CC. You can weekend-it it to Nashville, Savannah, Destin, and Disney World, and on and on.Oh yeah, construction and household services are generally cheaper except for house cleaners for some reason.

A few challenges from moving from CA to GA include the heavy pollen for a few weeks in the spring and fall; humidity in summer which you don’t see much in CA but do in much of the country; professional sports teams that are prone to choke; poor transportation management as you near Atlanta; thunderstorms in summer; higher house maintenance needs; occasional tornado warnings; and crazy weather swings, though generally accurately forecast.

If you consider moving to the South, I would very highly recommend buying a home with a daylight basement. The extra square footage is great for storage, hobbies, kid play, or building a killer media room and/or bar!

Not sure what your budget is or how much land you need, but here is an example of nearly 4,000 SF plus a basement on 0.6 acre for $400,000. There are plenty of other examples with more or less land for more or less money. It is definitely worth consideration for the affordable living, quality education, supportive community, and amenities while still maintaining a slower-paced vibe.


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6385-Oak-Valley-Dr-Cumming-GA-30040/14621618_zpid/

 

[Zorba]

Wow, that is a LOT of house!

 

[ejay]

Have you checked Billings? I have an in-law who did the CA to MT via UT move years ago and she really enjoys it. Housing is more costly than you think, but certainly much cheaper than CA. That said, prepare for real winters.

I would strongly suggest looking into unincorporated Forsyth County, GA. Your money can still go a long way there. The public schools are excellent as are nearby medical facilities and healthcare. Lake Lanier is right there if you like boating and fishing. No city property tax and taxes overall are reasonable. Gas is cheap as is electricity and natural gas. Food is generally much less expensive than it is in CA. Winters are comparatively mild. Perhaps you’ll get a dusting of snow every year and a periodic dump of up to 6” every handful of years which melts within hours to a few days. Year-round rain keeps things pretty green and clean most of the year. You can drive a few hours in any direction and be in another state. You’re close enough but not too close to a major airport and city with all the attractions you would expect. Traffic is pretty light in most of Forsyth except on SR400 near Fulton County. You can pickup the metro in the northern burbs which will take you anywhere you want to go downtown or even to the airport on the south side of the city. Shopping, dining, and entertainment are nearby and plentiful. There were plenty of good jobs and industry when I left. You would definitely enjoy the gun laws; they issue concealed carry in most Crackerjack boxes. Haha. I knew others who had no issue obtaining their CC. You can weekend-it it to Nashville, Savannah, Destin, and Disney World, and on and on.Oh yeah, construction and household services are generally cheaper except for house cleaners for some reason.

A few challenges from moving from CA to GA include the heavy pollen for a few weeks in the spring and fall; humidity in summer which you don’t see much in CA but do in much of the country; professional sports teams that are prone to choke; poor transportation management as you near Atlanta; thunderstorms in summer; higher house maintenance needs; occasional tornado warnings; and crazy weather swings, though generally accurately forecast.

If you consider moving to the South, I would very highly recommend buying a home with a daylight basement. The extra square footage is great for storage, hobbies, kid play, or building a killer media room and/or bar!

Not sure what your budget is or how much land you need, but here is an example of nearly 4,000 SF plus a basement on 0.6 acre for $400,000. There are plenty of other examples with more or less land for more or less money. It is definitely worth consideration for the affordable living, quality education, supportive community, and amenities while still maintaining a slower-paced vibe.


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6385-Oak-Valley-Dr-Cumming-GA-30040/14621618_zpid/

Awesome house! Like hell I'd live in a HOA, though. I'd consider Georgia but it's not rugged enough. I've got to have mountains. Not dirt hills; mountains.

Billings is #2 in regard to Montana. I'd love to do more rural but the job market doesn't support a fresh transplant there.

 

[cliffish]

Have you checked Billings? I have an in-law who did the CA to MT via UT move years ago and she really enjoys it. Housing is more costly than you think, but certainly much cheaper than CA. That said, prepare for real winters.

I would strongly suggest looking into unincorporated Forsyth County, GA. Your money can still go a long way there. The public schools are excellent as are nearby medical facilities and healthcare. Lake Lanier is right there if you like boating and fishing. No city property tax and taxes overall are reasonable. Gas is cheap as is electricity and natural gas. Food is generally much less expensive than it is in CA. Winters are comparatively mild. Perhaps you’ll get a dusting of snow every year and a periodic dump of up to 6” every handful of years which melts within hours to a few days. Year-round rain keeps things pretty green and clean most of the year. You can drive a few hours in any direction and be in another state. You’re close enough but not too close to a major airport and city with all the attractions you would expect. Traffic is pretty light in most of Forsyth except on SR400 near Fulton County. You can pickup the metro in the northern burbs which will take you anywhere you want to go downtown or even to the airport on the south side of the city. Shopping, dining, and entertainment are nearby and plentiful. There were plenty of good jobs and industry when I left. You would definitely enjoy the gun laws; they issue concealed carry in most Crackerjack boxes. Haha. I knew others who had no issue obtaining their CC. You can weekend-it it to Nashville, Savannah, Destin, and Disney World, and on and on.Oh yeah, construction and household services are generally cheaper except for house cleaners for some reason.

A few challenges from moving from CA to GA include the heavy pollen for a few weeks in the spring and fall; humidity in summer which you don’t see much in CA but do in much of the country; professional sports teams that are prone to choke; poor transportation management as you near Atlanta; thunderstorms in summer; higher house maintenance needs; occasional tornado warnings; and crazy weather swings, though generally accurately forecast.

If you consider moving to the South, I would very highly recommend buying a home with a daylight basement. The extra square footage is great for storage, hobbies, kid play, or building a killer media room and/or bar!

Not sure what your budget is or how much land you need, but here is an example of nearly 4,000 SF plus a basement on 0.6 acre for $400,000. There are plenty of other examples with more or less land for more or less money. It is definitely worth consideration for the affordable living, quality education, supportive community, and amenities while still maintaining a slower-paced vibe.


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6385-Oak-Valley-Dr-Cumming-GA-30040/14621618_zpid/

That is a million plus house here and taxes between 20K - 30K year.

 

[ejay]

That is a million plus house here and taxes between 20K - 30K year.

That's one thing I can NEVER get behind. You buy a home or property. Even after it's paid for in full, you never really own it. If you default on the taxes, they take it from you. And the taxes can be astronomically outrageous. NY is a prime example of that tomfoolery.

 

[TJ4Jim]

That's one thing I can NEVER get behind. You buy a home or property. Even after it's paid for in full, you never really own it. If you default on the taxes, they take it from you. And the taxes can be astronomically outrageous. NY is a prime example of that tomfoolery.

NY doesn't hold a candle to NJ property taxes, they are crazy astronomically high.

 

[Rubicon John]

Have you checked Billings? I have an in-law who did the CA to MT via UT move years ago and she really enjoys it. Housing is more costly than you think, but certainly much cheaper than CA. That said, prepare for real winters.

I would strongly suggest looking into unincorporated Forsyth County, GA. Your money can still go a long way there. The public schools are excellent as are nearby medical facilities and healthcare. Lake Lanier is right there if you like boating and fishing. No city property tax and taxes overall are reasonable. Gas is cheap as is electricity and natural gas. Food is generally much less expensive than it is in CA. Winters are comparatively mild. Perhaps you’ll get a dusting of snow every year and a periodic dump of up to 6” every handful of years which melts within hours to a few days. Year-round rain keeps things pretty green and clean most of the year. You can drive a few hours in any direction and be in another state. You’re close enough but not too close to a major airport and city with all the attractions you would expect. Traffic is pretty light in most of Forsyth except on SR400 near Fulton County. You can pickup the metro in the northern burbs which will take you anywhere you want to go downtown or even to the airport on the south side of the city. Shopping, dining, and entertainment are nearby and plentiful. There were plenty of good jobs and industry when I left. You would definitely enjoy the gun laws; they issue concealed carry in most Crackerjack boxes. Haha. I knew others who had no issue obtaining their CC. You can weekend-it it to Nashville, Savannah, Destin, and Disney World, and on and on.Oh yeah, construction and household services are generally cheaper except for house cleaners for some reason.

A few challenges from moving from CA to GA include the heavy pollen for a few weeks in the spring and fall; humidity in summer which you don’t see much in CA but do in much of the country; professional sports teams that are prone to choke; poor transportation management as you near Atlanta; thunderstorms in summer; higher house maintenance needs; occasional tornado warnings; and crazy weather swings, though generally accurately forecast.

If you consider moving to the South, I would very highly recommend buying a home with a daylight basement. The extra square footage is great for storage, hobbies, kid play, or building a killer media room and/or bar!

Not sure what your budget is or how much land you need, but here is an example of nearly 4,000 SF plus a basement on 0.6 acre for $400,000. There are plenty of other examples with more or less land for more or less money. It is definitely worth consideration for the affordable living, quality education, supportive community, and amenities while still maintaining a slower-paced vibe.


https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6385-Oak-Valley-Dr-Cumming-GA-30040/14621618_zpid/

You should really keep your voice down.

 

[cliffish]

NY doesn't hold a candle to NJ property taxes, they are crazy astronomically high.

IDK Long Island taxes are probably on par with northern NJ when you take into account property value. They suck in both states.