The nice TJ lady

[Westtown Willy]

This morning I was in the self-checkout line at Home Depot when the attendant walked over & picked up my jug of 10w-30 & asked me if it was only for cars or if it could be put in anything. I asked her what she wanted to put it in & she said a Wrangler. Suddenly she’s no longer bothering me & I’ve got time to chat . I said of course you can in fact that’s exactly where that bottle is going. I asked her if her Wrangler was a TJ & she said “no, it’s a 1999” , got really excited & started telling me that she had a CJ, and after that a “1990”, & now this one. I had a horrible feeling she probably wasn’t aware of certain issues so I asked her how the frame was, she said it’s good, there’s just a little rust around the bottom, then went on to tell me about a weird sound it makes when she starts it (thinking to myself that’s probably the least of her problems). We chatted a few more minutes & she asked me if I repaired Jeeps, I told her only my own but gave her my mechanic’s number to check out the engine issue.

I couldn’t resist taking a closer look at her rig on my way out & sadly as soon as I crouched down to look at the frame I could see the rust flake pile above the frame hole line, all of them. Stuck my finger in there & Jesus, had to be an inch & a half deep of pure rust chunks, honestly I don’t know how that thing hasn’t snapped in half yet. I couldn’t in good conscience leave without warning her so I went back in & explained the nature of TJ’s vs. Pennsylvania winters & what it meant in her particular case. She was really bummed out & went on to tell me she just had a new motor & tranny put in. I cannot believe the mechanic that did that work didn’t notice the frame issue & worse didn’t clue her in before swapping the motor/trans. The TJ looked pretty rough all around & I’m thinking it would’ve been the neighborly thing to do to alert her & give her the option of putting that money into a new ride rather than dropping it into that one. Regardless, I urged her to take it to my buddy asap & explained the SafeTcap repair to her, let her know he’d shoot her straight with w/n it was worthwhile given it’s overall condition & mechanical health.

I’m amazed that there are people that can own these vehicles for so long & yet know so little about them.

 

[TJ2]

This morning I was in the self-checkout line at Home Depot when the attendant walked over & picked up my jug of 10w-30 & asked me if it was only for cars or if it could be put in anything. I asked her what she wanted to put it in & she said a Wrangler. Suddenly she’s no longer bothering me & I’ve got time to chat . I said of course you can in fact that’s exactly where that bottle is going. I asked her if her Wrangler was a TJ & she said “no, it’s a 1999” , got really excited & started telling me that she had a CJ, and after that a “1990”, & now this one. I had a horrible feeling she probably wasn’t aware of certain issues so I asked her how the frame was, she said it’s good, there’s just a little rust around the bottom, then went on to tell me about a weird sound it makes when she starts it (thinking to myself that’s probably the least of her problems). We chatted a few more minutes & she asked me if I repaired Jeeps, I told her only my own but gave her my mechanic’s number to check out the engine issue.

I couldn’t resist taking a closer look at her rig on my way out & sadly as soon as I crouched down to look at the frame I could see the rust flake pile above the frame hole line, all of them. Stuck my finger in there & Jesus, had to be an inch & a half deep of pure rust chunks, honestly I don’t know how that thing hasn’t snapped in half yet. I couldn’t in good conscience leave without warning her so I went back in & explained the nature of TJ’s vs. Pennsylvania winters & what it meant in her particular case. She was really bummed out & went on to tell me she just had a new motor & tranny put in. I cannot believe the mechanic that did that work didn’t notice the frame issue & worse didn’t clue her in before swapping the motor/trans. The TJ looked pretty rough all around & I’m thinking it would’ve been the neighborly thing to do to alert her & give her the option of putting that money into a new ride rather than dropping it into that one. Regardless, I urged her to take it to my buddy asap & explained the SafeTcap repair to her, let her know he’d shoot her straight with w/n it was worthwhile given it’s overall condition & mechanical health.

I’m amazed that there are people that can own these vehicles for so long & yet know so little about them.

You have done a good deed. That's what it counts.

 

[AndyG]

This is exactly why so many guys get Jeep's with all sorts crazy issues ..some folks just don't know or want to know much about vehicles.

That's no sin. It's just how it is .

Most of us are 180 degree opposite I expect .

 

[C.J. Roberts]

some folks just don't know or want to know much about vehicles.
Most of us are 180 degree opposite I expect .

Most of us are manly men. True "guys", willing to do battle to maintain manliness in the world.
So many "men" today aren't, and they fear and hate us for it. We are the ones that the media refer to as having "Toxic Masculinity", and we are.
The world needs men, (and women), like us, and though they loath us, we're the ones that the Snowflakes depend on to fight the battles, whether auto maintenance, the building of the very infrastructure society needs, or the defence of home and hearth, that they aren't willing to.
Even though they wouldn't do it for us, we'll still do it for them. That's what makes us Men.

 

[TJ2]

Even though they wouldn't do it for us, we'll still do it for them. That's what makes us Men.

I end up into a ditch one icy winter in Channahon Illinois, a TJ driver stayed on the curb and wait at bay for the tow truck to arrive, then left when I was already out.

 

[AndyG]

That's what I'm talking about .

Most real Jeep guys ain't a afraid of grease under their nails , to lay under it in the O'Reillys parking lot , to eat at waffle house, change their own oil, fly the flag and stand up and cover their heart when the national anthem is played .

 

[Westtown Willy]

Most of us are manly men. True "guys", willing to do battle to maintain manliness in the world.
So many "men" today aren't, and they fear and hate us for it. We are the ones that the media refer to as having "Toxic Masculinity", and we are.
The world needs men, (and women), like us, and though they loath us, we're the ones that the Snowflakes depend on to fight the battles, whether auto maintenance, the building of the very infrastructure society needs, or the defence of home and hearth, that they aren't willing to.
Even though they wouldn't do it for us, we'll still do it for them. That's what makes us Men.

'toxic masculinity', what a load of happy horseshit. Masculinity is masculinity, the fact that it's fallen out of favor doesn't change who we are now, have been in the past, or will be in the future - just another 'progressive' nitwit fantasy to alter reality

 

[Chris]

Hopefully she didn't end up paying too much for it.

Wranglers are one of those vehicles you have to be extra cautious with when purchasing used. This is of course due to their nature to rust like no other. I've owned a lot of cool vehicles in the past, all of which had their "issues" to watch out for when buying used. However, none of them (seriously) had issues as serious as the rust issue that can plague the Jeep Wrangler.

This is something far too many first time buyers don't take the time to research before making their purchase. I feel bad because some people will drop big money, only to find out once they join a forum like this that they have massive amounts of rust.

 

[Westtown Willy]

this morning while at Home Depot I ran into the nice TJ lady again & asked her if she had the frame looked at, she replied "yea, I took it back to my mechanic & he said there's no rust on the frame"

This time I took pictures & went back in to show her, explained the potential risks going forward with that kind of rot. In the first one you can see the pile of what used to be her frame now in chip, chunk & flake form, that's what each access hole looks like:

Pretty sure trouble lurks between here

looks like you could probably stick your finger through the frame in this spot

I told her that her mechanic needs a seeing eye dog

 

[TJ2]

I wonder if I could trust her mechanic doing anything non rust related work in my rig after saying that to her.

 

[Paul Land]

Most of us are manly men. True "guys", willing to do battle to maintain manliness in the world.
So many "men" today aren't, and they fear and hate us for it. We are the ones that the media refer to as having "Toxic Masculinity", and we are.
The world needs men, (and women), like us, and though they loath us, we're the ones that the Snowflakes depend on to fight the battles, whether auto maintenance, the building of the very infrastructure society needs, or the defence of home and hearth, that they aren't willing to.
Even though they wouldn't do it for us, we'll still do it for them. That's what makes us Men.

I Agree 100% Just add this.The Flakes hate it!

 

[Paul Land]

this morning while at Home Depot I ran into the nice TJ lady again & asked her if she had the frame looked at, she replied "yea, I took it back to my mechanic & he said there's no rust on the frame"

This time I took pictures & went back in to show her, explained the potential risks going forward with that kind of rot. In the first one you can see the pile of what used to be her frame now in chip, chunk & flake form, that's what each access hole looks like:

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Pretty sure trouble lurks between here
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looks like you could probably stick your finger through the frame in this spot
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I told her that her mechanic needs a seeing eye dog

Key word is Mechanic She needed Auto body-Chassis Guy.