WRG winch lines, lets chat
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The two 10ft flat straps I use for tree straps are rated at 20k lbs on a straight eye to eye connection. My winch is a 9000lb.
The rope should be the weak point for recovery, but used within its limits.
ya............as i'm thinkin this through here i don't need a ST in the face either. let that bitch drop with the broke end.
I used the 20’ that I cut off my 100’ winch line as an extension.
How’d you treat the ends? Bury the loose end back in the rope leaving an attachment loop at the end?
I spliced eyes in both ends and soft shackle them together if I need more rope. It also serves as a 10’ long two leg bridle.
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by eyes i assume we need devices to hold a radius on those end loops correct?
and you reminded me i still have my cutoff line drop around here somewhere.
i wanted to do a few soft shackles but then found out the force it takes to lock those knots correctly.
It's the most plausible. My rope is almost 30klbs breaking, if I recall. The TRE snatch block is about 20k. The TRE soft shackles are in the high 20klbs breaking, I think.
Very few here are running winches above 10k, with most I suspect being 8klb.
In most discussions like this one, it is often mentioned that the winch is and should be the weak point.
Warn estimates a 15% line pull loss for each additional layer.
https://www.warn.com/warn-winch-performance-specifications-pulling-capacity-by-layer
i thought the idea was to avoid those type of loops in synth line. i have read they need to hold a radius end and what a safety thimble was made to do.
am i wrong here? does this not apply to synth line looped to a soft shackle? the lines not supposed to be loaded on a point it's made to load along it's length, no?
those are way over the rating of a 3/8 winch line.
so a safety thimble is just decoration then?
Ideally yes but I can tell you from experience that soft eye works just fine. Years ago I was a dealer for Viking and as much as Thor protested 95 percent of the lines I sold were soft eye with a chafe guard on them. We had zero eye failure in the field of the hundreds of lines put to hard use.
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If you were wrong, the soft shackles couldn't be used although they are oversized by more than enough to handle the too tight bend around the bight. The lower incidental use rate also makes it sorta okay. The end of the winch line gets used every time the winch is used so it is better to support that eye as much as possible as often as possible and protect it from abrasion which is what the ST does very well.