The answer is really simple. They are a startup that has only been selling cars for two years. It will take more years for them to be profitable assuming they don't fail first.
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No wonder I'm seeing a bunch of nissan leaf's for sale at 5k. They are basically parts cars at that point.
Fk catalytic converters. Ev battery theft will be the next hot ticket
I go through that dance about every 5 years, and I keep coming back to the same conclusion, which is why would I buy a new(er) vehicle just to rack up miles on when a 10-15 year old Honda or Toyota will do the exact same thing for 1/2 the cost or less. That also shows me what happens to older hybrids since they pop up in my search when I'm looking. Around here, an older hybrid sells for the same price or less than a comparable vehicle with salvage title, which is around 1/3 of the price for the same vehicle with conventional ICE. Those battery packs truly condemn a vehicle when it’s time to replace it.
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I had not thought about that, but I bet you're right. That's going to be some deadly stuff when these common thieves just try to cut and run.
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Mrs App had a Ford Fusion plug in hybrid when we met. It was good for like 20 miles electric. It still got like 35 mpg gas and her commute was more than 20 miles.
I hated that car for many reasons. I was happy when it got totaled.
It would have been a really nice car if it wasn't a hybrid.
I get a vehicle allowance but have to meet guidelines to receive it. Less than 6 model years old, 4 doors, msrp above $25k. Most prob due to tax implications for the company. Plus I’ll be doing 30-40k miles per year just for work. If I buy new it’s pretty much a wash financially. Basically I get a free car every 4-5 years and I own it. No restrictions on personal use.
It's not just the kids. I see many adults, often older than I am, who cannot put their damn phone down and walk or talk. Smartphones were coming on the scene when I was in high school, and I'd say 3/4 of the kids had a phone of some type. Now I have kids of my own and limit their screen time because I’ve seen what it does/can do to people. We won't get started on social media, which I hate.
BTW, maybe it'll make you feel a little better, my kids play outside more than inside. Actually, they start looking for fights if they’re stuck inside too long.
agree, so it's kinda dumb that an article even got written about it. That's just startup stuff.
One of my brother-in-law has a job like that. Lucky bastards.
It has its days. It’s been planes, trains, and automobiles for the last seven years. Looking like a lot of windshield time in the future. I’m gonna hold off 6-12 months and see how it goes before buying another car. I already have 4 in the stable.
I haven't look at them. Though I assume if the dealer is charging $1000 to install them, it's probably a pain in the ass to get one out. Who knows though. For $30K, it might be worth it for a thief to steal the car and remove the battery somewhere else, then sell it.
I don't remember what vehicle it was, I'm thinking a Chevy or BMW, but my cousin who runs a private shop replaced one last year. Whatever the vehicle was, it had the battery under the rear seat area, and he had to remove the front seats, the back seat, the center console, rear interior panels and carpet just to get to it. He also had to pay a guy who specializes in these batteries to remove and install. I think that guy cost $5-600, plus whatever my cousin had to charge for his labor, which is $80/hr.
Yep. The clickbait media did exact same thing a month or so ago about one of the big three's EV divisions. Sell adds by spreading ignorance.
One of our sales guys in SoCal got his Prius battery replaced with a reman or aftermarket for $1000 all in. They are mobile and did it in his driveway in like 1.5 hours. Every cars different though.
I'm glad my wife wasn't aware of that cost, really reasonable for $1000. We sold our Prius Plugin in early January after replacing it with my DD 2004 TJ Sahara. My wife really only bought the Prius because, at the time, you could drive in the carpool lane with it and she was commuting over an hour per day. It probably got plugged in less than 5 times.
I said adults had the social skills, not that they all use them
... in high school I was still tethered to the wall by a cord plugged into a rotary phone, fun times. I think I was in my 30s when I got my first cell phone, a Motorola 'flip phone', something like this, but I'm pretty sure it was black, that thing was awesome except the whole being charged by the minute part:My kids are a bit older, they were already in school when the smart phone revolution began so not many kids had them, their friends that had cell phones at the time were classic dumb phone types, like Razors... we got our kids some kind of cheap flip phones by the time they got to high school, can't remember what they were.
It's good to hear there are still old school kids. Mine also managed to spend most of their time in sports and related physical activities, thankfully, because I know a lot of their contemporaries were couch blobs though most of that seemed to be gaming related as opposed to glued to cell phones.
If this "quote " is real , ( looks fishy to me since this isn't 1972 ) the cost per mile would be the same as a Jeep getting 9.45 MPG at 4.00/gallon gas.
This is close to the same as some people report are getting on the forum. Screw EV's except in small nitch applications.
I’m looking for a “work” car since my job changed and I’ll be driving a lot more. Don’t want to rack up miles at 16mpg in the Ram 2500.
Was looking at a Kia Sportage hybrid for mpg/value for features and space. Sales guy was really pushing the plug in model. He didn’t know much about what he was selling but was adamant it would pay for itself in a year.
The base hybrid msrp is $27.5k, the plug in starts at $38.7k and adds lots of options I don’t need and only 34 miles of electric only range.
Who buys these cars and why? The base hybrid does 44mpg hwy. Thats pretty damn good for a little suv. Imagine if it had a small diesel engine in it.
My daughter is driving home from Maine through Canada and got 43 mpg the other day with her 2011 Hyundai. Downhill?
My neighbor has a first generation Leaf. He bought it for his daughters to drive around town. Not that long ago, he told me the Leaf had a range of less than 20 miles on a full charge.