Upgrading the sound system on your Jeep Wrangler TJ

I should probably replace my head unit at some point with bluetooth. In my car I like to be able to listen to the music on my phone and charge it at the same time.
 
Anyone using the Polk Audio MM series 652? https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107MM652/Polk-Audio-MM-652.html?tp=78072 They are $100 more than the DB 652 https://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB652/Polk-Audio-DB-652.html?tp=78072 My power will be 45 watts RMS per channel and I probably won't have a sub. If the MM 652 will sound better I won't hesitate to buy them. The sensitivity is a tad higher (1 point).

One is marine grade which could account for the price increase. Do you need marine grade? If not, the JBL and Infinity are on a good sale.
 
actually they are both marine rated, but no, I don't need them to be

From the specs alone, the sound quality difference will not be discernible.

I would really recommend a subwoofer. I know you aren’t looking to boom boom, but your music will just sound like ting-ting-ting without one. The four small speakers can’t reproduce the notes in the artists songs. In other words, you’re not hearing the song the artist wrote. Building a good audio system isn’t necessarily hard or expensive, but you do need speakers and amps to get good clean sound and hear all the notes in balance.
 
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From the specs alone, the sound quality difference will not be discernible.

I would really recommend a subwoofer. I know you aren’t looking to boom boom, but your music will just sound like ting-ting-ting without one. The four small speakers can’t reproduce the notes in the artists songs. In other words, you’re not hearing the song the artist wrote. Building a good audio system isn’t necessarily hard or expensive, but you do need speakers and amps to get good clean sound and hear all the notes in balance.

After I get everything installed if I'm not happy with it I'll look into a sub. I don't want to take up floor space so it will probably have to go in the console which is huge but I don't really put much in it.
 
After I get everything installed if I'm not happy with it I'll look into a sub. I don't want to take up floor space so it will probably have to go in the console which is huge but I don't really put much in it.

👍🏼. I’m a big proponent of saving space in our tiny TJ’s. I’ve always put my sub under the rear seat so it doesn’t take up any useable floor space. I’ve used both powered subs and stand alone box subs.
 
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I just pulled the trigger on two sets of BLAM 130RS 5.25" speakers. Given the glowing recommendations by forum members, I'm excited! My plan is to mount the tweeters on the A-piller and sound bar. https://incartec.co.uk/product/BLAM...-2ohm-2-Way-Component-speakers-PAIR-BL-130RFS

I'm looking to pull the trigger today on Crutchfield Cyber Monday deals for:
Alpine iLX-507 - head unit - The Alpine Power Stack amp doesn't work with this unit unfortunately.
Kicker 48CWRT672 - sub woofer to replace the blown factory one in the center console
Crutchfield CK10 - 10-gauge amplifier power wiring kit for the amp
T-SPEC VDB4 - v12 Series 4-way distribution block
T-Spec v12 Series VFDB2 - Fused distribution block​
T-SPEC V8 Mini-ANL Fuses - Pair of nickel-plated mini-ANL fuses (30-amp)
Dynamat Dynaliner - apply it inside the center console

I already have:
Front speaker adapter​
Metra double DIN dash kit​
Flush mount USB C​
I need to find a 5 channel amp and front/rear cameras. Any recommendations?

Thank you.
Kim
 
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I know very little about sub woofers. If my head unit has 45 watts RMS X 4 and a sub woofer output would I use a unpowered subwoofer or a powered one?

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I know very little about sub woofers. If my head unit has 45 watts RMS X 4 and a sub woofer output would I use a unpowered subwoofer or a powered one?

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The alternatives shown in your manual would work, but they would decrease your overall volume pretty substantially.

What most people do is a powered sub & use the RCA subwoofer jacks on the head unit to run a signal to it.
 
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The alternatives shown in your manual would work, but they would decrease your overall volume pretty substantially.

What most people do is a powered sub & use the RCA subwoofer jacks on the head unit to run a signal to it.

Thanks, sounds like powered is the way to go.

Anyone put baffles behind the dash speakers and is it worth it? I noticed it just all open behind them.
 
Hello, everyone. I am new to the forum after having purchased my '99 TJ from a friend last Friday! One of the first upgrades I am considering is the sound system, so I did peruse all 53+ pages of this thread...

My TJ has the two dash speakers which appear stock, and the sound bar which a previous owner replaced with JL Audio speakers, and a Pioneer head unit which a previous owner installed. There are no speakers in the rear. The sound is pretty bad (not loud, not clear, and I have to fade the volume to the front at a level of about 7/10 or 8/10 to get a fairly balanced sound); the speakers do not sound blown.

My question is this: where would you start for an upgrade? What I'd like to do is:
1. Keep the Pioneer head unit
2. Keep the JL Audio speakers in the soundbar
3. Replace the front dash speakers, maybe with Kicker 46CSC464 6x9s
4. In the future, add a sub

Excited to hear your thoughts!

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Thought this update might interest a member or two. I ended up removing the 4" JL Audio dash speakers and installing a pair of Polk 5-1/2" DB522. I bought Boom Mat backers but the wrong size was shipped so I didn't install them.

I did a rough test by measuring dB(A) with a simple iPhone app in the four seating locations with three audio types (podcast, rock, and rap) using the same songs and the same parts of the songs for each test instance. It's not perfect, but it did show marginally higher levels of dB(A) with one and then both speakers replaced.
One other takeaway - I used to have to fade to the front +7 to get the sound balanced comfortably between dash and soundbar, now only need to fade +3.

My next steps, I think, are going to be to buy this sub package (just looking for something inexpensive, simple, and all-inclusive to fill up the sound): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079PSSD6N/?tag=wranglerorg-20

I may also try to get the properly sized Boom Mats since it seems like a simple bonus for $10-15.

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Thought this update might interest a member or two. I ended up removing the 4" JL Audio dash speakers and installing a pair of Polk 5-1/2" DB522. I bought Boom Mat backers but the wrong size was shipped so I didn't install them.

I did a rough test by measuring dB(A) with a simple iPhone app in the four seating locations with three audio types (podcast, rock, and rap) using the same songs and the same parts of the songs for each test instance. It's not perfect, but it did show marginally higher levels of dB(A) with one and then both speakers replaced.
One other takeaway - I used to have to fade to the front +7 to get the sound balanced comfortably between dash and soundbar, now only need to fade +3.

My next steps, I think, are going to be to buy this sub package (just looking for something inexpensive, simple, and all-inclusive to fill up the sound): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079PSSD6N/?tag=wranglerorg-20

I may also try to get the properly sized Boom Mats since it seems like a simple bonus for $10-15.

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Wow. This is impressive. Good job!

I wish someone woukd do this with a JKU. I had those speakers in my TJ. And they improved things ALOT over stock.

What app did you use?

Again. Great job!
 
Did anybody end up getting these? cant find any reviews on them, price one the white one is super low now but it doesnt seem like they export internationally
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Wow. This is impressive. Good job!

I wish someone woukd do this with a JKU. I had those speakers in my TJ. And they improved things ALOT over stock.

What app did you use?

Again. Great job!

I used the free version of the iOS app "Decibel X". I was pretty impressed with its free features.
 
Thought this update might interest a member or two. I ended up removing the 4" JL Audio dash speakers and installing a pair of Polk 5-1/2" DB522. I bought Boom Mat backers but the wrong size was shipped so I didn't install them.

I did a rough test by measuring dB(A) with a simple iPhone app in the four seating locations with three audio types (podcast, rock, and rap) using the same songs and the same parts of the songs for each test instance. It's not perfect, but it did show marginally higher levels of dB(A) with one and then both speakers replaced.
One other takeaway - I used to have to fade to the front +7 to get the sound balanced comfortably between dash and soundbar, now only need to fade +3.

My next steps, I think, are going to be to buy this sub package (just looking for something inexpensive, simple, and all-inclusive to fill up the sound): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B079PSSD6N/?tag=wranglerorg-20

I may also try to get the properly sized Boom Mats since it seems like a simple bonus for $10-15.

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Be careful of anything made by Rockville, their stuff usually is crap, just Google the company and you will see all about it. See if this 10" cerwin vega can fit in your spot. Bunch of decent 8" out there like Kicker or Kenwood.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08KYPZX7W/?tag=wranglerorg-20
 
Did anybody end up getting these? cant find any reviews on them, price one the white one is super low now but it doesnt seem like they export internationally
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I steered away from the expensive headache machine. Would be fun if your rig is meant for partying in a place like Dumont/Pismo, Lake Havasu, or Jerry’s Florida mud run events; otherwise, I don’t see it as an upgrade.
 
I steered away from the expensive headache machine. Would be fun if your rig is meant for partying in a place like Dumont/Pismo, Lake Havasu, or Jerry’s Florida mud run events; otherwise, I don’t see it as an upgrade.

i dont understand references to anything you said after headache machine. They are only 140 usd now so want to know if they are any good and what the build quality is like if anybody here purchased one. oem is not an option for me and the vdp soundbars are garbage and cost more than the current sale price these are on.