Adventures with ACC carpet kits

I did a diy bed liner under my carpet and I had messed my exhaust up to where my carpet got completely melted to the tub just above the muffler but the bedliner never peeled. I spilled brake fluid in the back and it has peeled up some there. I put carpet back in mostly for the back seat wheel wells since my friends complained the bedliner was too rough and I’d pack them in the back like sardines. I never really had time with just bedliner it’s always been carpet. Now I’m not being the dd for college kids ima pull the melted carpet out and see how just the bedliner feels again for me since that’s Blaine’s recommendation and I regard it highly as well as it’s the cheaper than just buying a bedrug right away.
 
I think people don't want bedliner because they want something more visually appealing (as in what they perceive in a modern car), it doesn't provide sound dampening, nor heat barrier. 99% of them probably have wires running under the carpet too. I'm not justifying it, there are better ways to route added wiring, but just saying.

I don't think it would peel off due to heat. It's pretty tough, especially when thicker and professionally done.

Perhaps you're right - I have always thought that carpet had no place in a Jeep, truck, or similar vehicle. We all know what I think about "modern" cars for that matter, but the sound doesn't bother me either. The main reason my late father replaced a certain '63 GMC 1 ton (with rubber matting) with a '78 Chevy 1 ton (with carpet) was the noise. I didn't see the problem then, and I don't see it now... *shrug*
 
My $0.02 on bedliner is that it’s ugly and loud. I don’t think it belongs in the passenger compartment. If you want to run your Jeep as a two seater, and bedline the area behind the front seats? Makes sense. It’s a good product for that (but interior noise will increase). I have buddies with bedliner in the interior and their jeeps are not nearly as nice a place to be in compared to mine (with bedrug, which is not the greatest product either, and a layer of noico).
 
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Perhaps you're right - I have always thought that carpet had no place in a Jeep, truck, or similar vehicle. We all know what I think about "modern" cars for that matter, but the sound doesn't bother me either. The main reason my late father replaced a certain '63 GMC 1 ton (with rubber matting) with a '78 Chevy 1 ton (with carpet) was the noise. I didn't see the problem then, and I don't see it now... *shrug*

I still don't know what you're trying to accomplish, so it's difficult to problem solve together. If you just want something that won't scratch up the tub paint in the floorboards, then bedliner "might" be a good option for you. I say "might" because I'm not sure the kind of traction you get on bedliner, especially when it gets wet, and I wouldn't want to slip. Bu tif you're already running no carpet then slippage wouldn't bother you.
 
I wouldn't do bed liner because it accomplishes nothing that I want (insulation from noise and heat) and I wouldn't buy one with bed liner because it's the go to finish of the unscrupulous when trying to conceal rust instead of repairing it correctly. As far as I care that's the only thing it's useful for outside of a truck bed.

My carpet is in good shape. I have the quadratec mats that are kind of like the weathertec mats you'd buy on Wish. I may pull it all this winter and add insulation. I wouldn't hate a vinyl floor like you see in a work truck, but I like the carpet more and it stays reasonably clean with the mats.
 
I had bedliner in my original tub. PO installed. Looked good at first glance...but after six months I realized it was a piss coat and super thin in most places. I realized the Jeep was loud, loud enough to cause me severe fatigue after hours of driving.

When my wife helped fold my frame and tub in half and I replaced both, the new clean tub was not bed linered. I almost got a stock carpet...but someone cut up the front driver side possibly trying to remove the seats.

One of the few modifications I allowed myself during my eight day thrash to tub and frame swap my Jeep was a BedTred. And I've got to say the product flat out sucks. It fits poorly everywhere. The Velcro stick down is adequate but the supplied Velcro is insufficient in quantity and length. The color choices are lame. And it does little to nothing for heat and noise.

I'm considering at this point more DEI Boom Matt and spray adhesive, trim and cut in high quality marine carpet over the top.

But I've got a much longer list of higher priorities.

At this point if I'm traveling for more than an hour I put on my Rugged Radio headset/ear pro. Or my IsoTunes earbuds.

-Mac
 
I had bedliner in my original tub. PO installed. Looked good at first glance...but after six months I realized it was a piss coat and super thin in most places. I realized the Jeep was loud, loud enough to cause me severe fatigue after hours of driving.

When my wife helped fold my frame and tub in half and I replaced both, the new clean tub was not bed linered. I almost got a stock carpet...but someone cut up the front driver side possibly trying to remove the seats.

One of the few modifications I allowed myself during my eight day thrash to tub and frame swap my Jeep was a BedTred. And I've got to say the product flat out sucks. It fits poorly everywhere. The Velcro stick down is adequate but the supplied Velcro is insufficient in quantity and length. The color choices are lame. And it does little to nothing for heat and noise.

I'm considering at this point more DEI Boom Matt and spray adhesive, trim and cut in high quality marine carpet over the top.

But I've got a much longer list of higher priorities.

At this point if I'm traveling for more than an hour I put on my Rugged Radio headset/ear pro. Or my IsoTunes earbuds.

-Mac

I use noise canceling ear buds in my jeep and on jobsites. Love em. Listen to what(and who🤣) i want,and try to protect what I have left of my hearing at the same time
 
I use noise canceling ear buds in my jeep and on jobsites. Love em. Listen to what(and who🤣) i want,and try to protect what I have left of my hearing at the same time

Yup and cheaper...much cheaper than anything and everything else I've done.

-Mac
 
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Yea, exactly. The word on this forum since I joined in '20 has been "don't bedline your Jeep", so I abandoned the idea and have been thinking rubber matting like bed tred or a couple of others that I've run into. But Blaine brought it up again, and I'm rather inclined to believe what he says on the subject of Jeeps, so now I'm wondering "What's the problem with bedliner?". Does it blister and peel off because of heat from the drivetrain? I dunno...

Using the term bedliner generically is not good for anyone. There are several types, moisture cure polyurethanes like Herculiner which after about 15 coats might come up to a build thickness as thick as a lower quality business card. Then there are the 2K types with an activator you mix in like hardener in auto paint. They are slightly better but only marginally. The best is the 2 part commercial spray in like Rhino. I've seen Rhino as thick as 1/4" on truck beds I've owned. I'm not a fan of Line-X since they shoot about 1/8" thick and it is a harder material than Rhino of old. I am not familiar with any of it in recent years so I may be way off base.

Properly prepped, none of it has an adhesion issue. Rhino will provide some sound deadening purely through adding mass to panel and slowing down their resonation. They don't insulate well since they will eventually warm up and give off the heat under them. My only issue with them is expense and they never look as good as the day they were shot.
 
Using the term bedliner generically is not good for anyone. There are several types, moisture cure polyurethanes like Herculiner which after about 15 coats might come up to a build thickness as thick as a lower quality business card. Then there are the 2K types with an activator you mix in like hardener in auto paint. They are slightly better but only marginally. The best is the 2 part commercial spray in like Rhino. I've seen Rhino as thick as 1/4" on truck beds I've owned. I'm not a fan of Line-X since they shoot about 1/8" thick and it is a harder material than Rhino of old. I am not familiar with any of it in recent years so I may be way off base.

Properly prepped, none of it has an adhesion issue. Rhino will provide some sound deadening purely through adding mass to panel and slowing down their resonation. They don't insulate well since they will eventually warm up and give off the heat under them. My only issue with them is expense and they never look as good as the day they were shot.

This makes a shit ton of sense. My only experience with any of it was the Rhino in the bed of the previously mentioned F-250, and I certainly loved it there! Yea, it weathered after a couple of years, that doesn't bother me in the slightest. But it good to know that there are different grades of the stuff, I figured it was all more or less the same!
 
I wouldn't do bed liner because it accomplishes nothing that I want (insulation from noise and heat) and I wouldn't buy one with bed liner because it's the go to finish of the unscrupulous when trying to conceal rust instead of repairing it correctly. As far as I care that's the only thing it's useful for outside of a truck bed.
Your priorities are the opposite of mine - I want something that will hold up, not retain water, not retain dirt, not show wear easily, and not shit and stink. Noise doesn't concern me, it really never has but as I'm now as deaf as a post anyway...

Haven't had any problems with heat either since I painted my hardtop white on top - that was the "big deal" with heat for me. I guess the floor gets hot, I honestly have never really felt around - I probably should!
 
I still don't know what you're trying to accomplish, so it's difficult to problem solve together. If you just want something that won't scratch up the tub paint in the floorboards, then bedliner "might" be a good option for you. I say "might" because I'm not sure the kind of traction you get on bedliner, especially when it gets wet, and I wouldn't want to slip. Bu tif you're already running no carpet then slippage wouldn't bother you.

Carpet, such as it is, is still in place. I've had other priorities, but doing "something" has always been in the plan. I don't recall the Rhino liner in my truck being slick when wet - but it was also a long ass time ago.
 
Carpet, such as it is, is still in place. I've had other priorities, but doing "something" has always been in the plan. I don't recall the Rhino liner in my truck being slick when wet - but it was also a long ass time ago.

Remove the carpet and drive it for awhile. See what you think. See how cleaning it is. All that. Then report back. 🙂
 
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Remove the carpet and drive it for awhile. See what you think. See how cleaning it is. All that. Then report back. 🙂

That actually makes some sense. I'm gonna have to partially pull the carpet Real Soon Now to get my Savvy shifter finally installed, maybe I'll just pull it all the way and see. I don't see an issue, but I also could be wrong...
 
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Your priorities are the opposite of mine - I want something that will hold up, not retain water, not retain dirt, not show wear easily, and not shit and stink. Noise doesn't concern me, it really never has but as I'm now as deaf as a post anyway...

Haven't had any problems with heat either since I painted my hardtop white on top - that was the "big deal" with heat for me. I guess the floor gets hot, I honestly have never really felt around - I probably should!

My jeep isn't waterproof. Even if it was i still have the windows out of it and don't care about 30* mornings or rain.sure I'll put the hardtop on soon once it really starts raining every day,but it isn't something i'll enjoy.

Carpet smells,traps water,rust and mold the way I use my jeep.my carpet went in the garbage.i use a garden hose to clean i side my jeep now.the thing I like about real bedliner is it won't get sanded off from dirty shoes or floor mats like paint does.if applied correctly it can route water out the drain instead of between panels.it doesn't have to be smooth and slick when wet or dry. Neither of my trucks are that way.

Nice thing about builds is we can have comfort,stereos,big tires,horsepower or whatever you want as a priority. They are all interesting to see.
 
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My jeep isn't waterproof. Even if it was i still have the windows out of it and don't care about 30* mornings or rain.sure I'll put the hardtop on soon once it really starts raining every day,but it isn't something i'll enjoy.

Carpet smells,traps water,rust and mold the way I use my jeep.my carpet went in the garbage.i use a garden hose to clean i side my jeep now.the thing I like about real bedliner is it won't get sanded off from dirty shoes or floor mats like paint does.if applied correctly it can route water out the drain instead of between panels.it doesn't have to be smooth and slick when wet or dry. Neither of my trucks are that way.

Nice thing about builds is we can have comfort,stereos,big tires,horsepower or whatever you want as a priority. They are all interesting to see.

Do you have a picture of how you handled the drains?
 
Soooooo, what you’re saying is that there are no good carpeting options … haha 🤣

I bought the ACC mass backed luxury carpet to try … and it fits like crap. GREAT materials, just poor workmanship …

I did Line-X on the rubicon flares with the UV protectant and it looks great, has a slight gloss that makes it easy to clean … after 2 years of AZ sun, I’m convinced it’s may be a suitable solution for the tub. I’d top it with floor mats or find a nice factory carpet set.