New guy needing help; looking at 2004 TJ tomorrow!

The mods on that one look like the right brands to use all good stuff...kind of cheesy that he is not including the soft top on the sale???

He states it includes both tops; I just now got text from him sold pending funds. He said he would get back to me if it falls through.
 
Thanks nice Rubi and only 3 hours away. I am a newbie but kind of afraid of all the upgrades I worry maybe not installed right or something?

That one is actually a nicely done up TJ with top-shelf mods, not the cheap low quality stuff.

Don't be afraid of mods if they are the more expensive ones. Generally if someone put the expensive stuff on it, it means they had a lot of money, which usually means they had the money to take care of it properly.

The ones to stay away from are the ones that have something like a cheap 2" Rough Country lift and a 3" body lift with some off brand Chinese tires. Those are the ones where you know the previous owner was being as cheap as he could, which usually isn't a good thing.
 
That one is actually a nicely done up TJ with top-shelf mods, not the cheap low quality stuff.

Don't be afraid of mods if they are the more expensive ones. Generally if someone put the expensive stuff on it, it means they had a lot of money, which usually means they had the money to take care of it properly.

The ones to stay away from are the ones that have something like a cheap 2" Rough Country lift and a 3" body lift with some off brand Chinese tires. Those are the ones where you know the previous owner was being as cheap as he could, which usually isn't a good thing.

Thanks Chris you make some valid points.
 
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Thanks Chris you make some valid points.

Generally speaking, names like Currie, Savvy, GenRight, Metalcloak, JKS, OME (and a number of others I'm forgetting) are brands that are known for making high quality, top-shelf parts. It's the Rough Country, Rubicon Express, Skyjacker, and others that make the "okay" parts. Not to say they are all crap, I'm just saying that if someone is willing to spend big bucks on something like a Currie lift, then you can probably assume they are the type of person who has a good amount of money to spend on taking care of their vehicle.

This is my experience with Jeeps at least!
 
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You can generally tell by driving one if it was lifted right.

I want to say that most vehicles that have name brand parts are most likely going to be done right... But honestly there is a lot going on in correctly lifting a vehicle and keeping it so it handles and drives well. If you don't know , try to find someone to evaluate or really bone up on what to look for .

I hear the "is this rust ok" question a lot here .

I don't won't to offend anyone fighting rust , and hate that they have to deal with it in many areas .

If it's a serious amount of money , and you plan to keep it , .avoid rust completely. My brother is an auto body man ..when I was a kid , he showed me rust on a vehicle ..and said , see this ? It's cancer on a car. My brother is also in prison . So take it for what it's worth.

I understand wanting a Jeep , and wanting one so badly you want some rust to not be a problem .

The biggest reason to avoid it isn't money , it's so that you can enjoy your jeep and feel good about it . I hate to see a toy , or a gift you give yourself , or whatever you want to call it , be a headache for someone.

I mean in no way to offend anyone with a rust issue ,salted roads save lives, and I'm on a tangent here .


There is something to be said about build quality - and that something is knowing what to look for , and this forum helps .

I paid what I felt was top dollar , and then spent a lot because I didn't know the Jeep had a cheap lift , old tires , needed regearing and love. The only consolation I get is that I'm not throwing good money after bad .
 
I found another one that caught my interest 2004 Red Rubicon 63K one owner with clean one owner car fax; very stock. Please check these pics out and give some feedback. IMG_1008.webp IMG_1009.webp IMG_1008.webp IMG_1009.webp IMG_1010.webp IMG_1011.webp
 
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Says a lot about rust concerns that when someone is talking about these , they just show the underside.

Pics sure seem to indicate it's nice , appears as if it's never been off roaded .
 
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Says a lot about rust concerns that when someone is talking about these , they just show the underside.

Pics sure seem to indicate it's nice , appears as if it's never been off roaded .

I have other pictures it is mint. These were just extra pics that I had dealer take. I have VIN car fax etc everything checks out good the problem it is 1200 miles from home. Does this underside look good?
 
In pics , but frame is painted it seems


Check that frame ! What kind of money man ?
 
Appears genuine , be sure it's got locker switches on dash , has disc brakes all around , and the lockers work , Dana 44 front and rear , 6 th digit of Vin is a 6 .

That's making sure it's a Rubicon.
 
Appears genuine , be sure it's got locker switches on dash , has disc brakes all around , and the lockers work , Dana 44 front and rear , 6 th digit of Vin is a 6 .

That's making sure it's a Rubicon.


Yes 6th digit is a 6 and I ran VIN on Jeep cust svc site. Dana 44 front and rear 4:11 rear axle ratio, 4 wheel disk, interior looks flawless in pics but how can I buy a vehicle without seeing it in person or driving it???
 
Don't and insist on meeting them somewhere public because they know you're carrying cash .

Also if they want to sell it they can meet you halfway.

You could even have another Forum member in that area possibly look at it.

If it's not been jacked around the price is very good.
 
Don't and insist on meeting them somewhere public because they know you're carrying cash .

Also if they want to sell it they can meet you halfway.

You could even have another Forum member in that area possibly look at it.

If it's not been jacked around the price is very good.

A dealer has it so I would have to fly in and I am traveling some on business so I would not be able to travel for about 3 weeks. The dealer sold new and it is one owner and he traded it back in to same dealer. Car fax shows all this detail and dealer did all maintenance extremely well documented. If I pull the trigger I am going to have to without seeing it in person. What if trans is bad or something else major?

I assume they will hold it if I give credit card for say $2000 down. I have cash or check when and if I fly in.