New guy needing help; looking at 2004 TJ tomorrow!

Yes it is but like I sent you in PM I am dealing over the phone on it. 1200 miles from home and I am uncomfortable buying long distance.
 
I'm afraid of giving too much detail someone else may jump on my deal! I want forum input but not to lose the deal if I decide to pull trigger.
Man let me tell you how for real I am as a person.

If it were within a few hundred miles of me I would look at it for you and even pay for the vehicle for you so that it doesn't get gone.

I would do it under the caveat that before I paid for it it would have to be good enough that I would want to own it if you didn't take it... And looking at the pictures it is.
 
Man let me tell you how for real I am as a person.

If it were within a few hundred miles of me I would look at it for you and even pay for the vehicle for you so that it doesn't get gone.

I would do it under the caveat that before I paid for it it would have to be good enough that I would want to own it if you didn't take it... And looking at the pictures it is.

Thanks Dude but too far away from you; I appreciate it!
 
It won't last the weekend at that price , they obviously don't know these exceed blue book values.

I'd do a refundable deposit if they ll agree to it .
 
Let us know how it works out .

This is like groundhog day , I see it over and over ... someone finds a nice tj at a good price , every time it's gone by the time they realize the deal it was .

The upside is they are so old , dealers don't have huge options on financing these , so it generally takes a cash buyer .
 
Let us know how it works out .

This is like groundhog day , I see it over and over ... someone finds a nice tj at a good price , every time it's gone by the time they realize the deal it was .

The upside is they are so old , dealers don't have huge options on financing these , so it generally takes a cash buyer .

You are right the sales guy told me 2 deals fell through on people not getting financing. I have cash of course so if for a $1000 or so on my credit card to hold it; fire up the Eco boost 150 with a friends trailer and take a road trip pull it home. Or fly and drive it home.
 
These things will bring more than most any financing company will loan based on nada values .

The other kicker is a lot of potential buyers are young , so they may not have as much borrowing power .

The other side of the coin is a Rubicon is the TJ to get right now... And someone is going to lay the money on them if they are in the market for one.
 
Damn I hate dealing with used car sales guys! I was getting him down a little on price but then I ask him about document fees or any extras they have a $99 document fee and then a $900 dealer prep fee so basically another $1000 to the price plus of course my tax and tags.

Also found out they repainted door handles and bumpers I guess this may be common but I saw old picture of door handles and they looked pretty bad with surface rust so that threw up red flag. Deal not done but I am taking some time to think about it.
 
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That red one looks great! Buy it!
Damn I hate dealing with used car sales guys! I was getting him down a little on price but then I ask him about document fees or any extras they have a $99 document fee and then a $900 dealer prep fee so basically another $1000 to the price plus of course my tax and tags.

Also found out they repainted door handles and bumpers I guess this may be common but I saw old picture of door handles and they looked pretty bad with surface rust so that threw up red flag. Deal not done but I am taking some time to think about it.

Those fees were disclosed in their Autotrader posting, but should be negotiable.

Surface rust on doorhandles is okay, happens to lots of jeeps. I think @Chris replaced his door handles at some point.

That one is a great deal assuming engine and frame are good, and lockers working etc etc. Maybe ask them to video the jeep turning on, driving the Jeep in the city and highway, and also asking them to engage lockers etc.
 
Those fees were disclosed in their Autotrader posting, but should be negotiable.

Surface rust on doorhandles is okay, happens to lots of jeeps. I think @Chris replaced his door handles at some point.

That one is a great deal assuming engine and frame are good, and lockers working etc etc. Maybe ask them to video the jeep turning on, driving the Jeep in the city and highway, and also asking them to engage lockers etc.

Yes I did see those fee in autotrader dealers in my area do not have fees that high he said in SW they are on low side of fees.

Did you see pictures of frame above skrelnik? What do you think?
 
Thanks nice Rubi and only 3 hours away. I am a newbie but kind of afraid of all the upgrades I worry maybe not installed right or something?
Just because a shop didn’t put the parts on doesn’t mean they’re not installed correctly. I can’t tell you how many times someone on here too, their vehicle to a shop and it didn’t get put on correctly. That goes for lifts, lockers, wheels, you name it. Shops can be lazy. I’m not saying individuals can’t be lazy too. Only that if you are the one driving it and you put it together, you are going to be more careful than a shop because you don’t want to kill yourself.
 
If you’re uncomfortable don’t drop money. If its too far, its too far. It’s a nice Rubicon though!
 
If you’re uncomfortable don’t drop money. If its too far, its too far. It’s a nice Rubicon though!

The part I am having a hard time with is buying it long distance I would know for sure if I could see, drive and inspect it?

Would you guys feel comfortable buying in this way?
 
The part I am having a hard time with is buying it long distance I would know for sure if I could see, drive and inspect it?

Would you guys feel comfortable buying in this way?
If you’re really interested do a Pre Purchase Inspection. It costs a little, but well worth it for an unbiased mechanics point of view. I’ve always got good advice from them when I’m unable to be there myself
 
If you’re really interested do a Pre Purchase Inspection. It costs a little, but well worth it for an unbiased mechanics point of view. I’ve always got good advice from them when I’m unable to be there myself

Good idea! How would you go about getting a good mechanic in that area? One that you could depend on and trust?
 
Yes I did see those fee in autotrader dealers in my area do not have fees that high he said in SW they are on low side of fees.

Did you see pictures of frame above skrelnik? What do you think?

I think the pictures look good. I can't see anything to be concerned about, but I also can't be 100% sure. Relative to all similar available Rubis on Autotrader, this one looks best and it's the cheapest.

The part I am having a hard time with is buying it long distance I would know for sure if I could see, drive and inspect it?

Would you guys feel comfortable buying in this way?

I would, I almost bought an Audi S6 in Ohio but ended up getting a similar car that was closer due to pricing. Put a REFUNDABLE deposit down and check it out. If it turns out not to be the one then enjoy a mini vacation. Good learning experience as well.

Good idea! How would you go about getting a good mechanic in that area? One that you could depend on and trust?

You can post on this forum if any members know a shop around the area. Or just Google jeep shops.

Another option is what I would do, go to the JKS web-site and search for their approved installers in the area. Call them and tell them you are travelling 1500 miles and want to see if they will do a pre purchase inspection for you. Here is that link.

https://jksmfg.com/locator.html?lat...=&q_city=Jacksonville+&q_state=Florida+&d=100
 
Good idea! How would you go about getting a good mechanic in that area? One that you could depend on and trust?
Just call any place that does PPI’s. If they did bad work or were in cahoots with the dealers they’d get reported. It’s very important for them to give unbiased analysis of the cars. It’s how they stay in business. Just look at some reviews and go with the one you feel confident in.