Anyone run Metalcloak 6-pack shocks?

In my eyes, the benefit of the 6pak shocks is the compressed length. Even if you don't use 15" (doubtful you could) they would allow for 33 or 35s to be installed without needing to extend the towers (assuming rs5000x 3.5" shocks).

I'm excited to see how @DrDmoney's hold up over time since I know for a fact he isn't going to be nice to them.
 
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Alex01 said:
The rear MC shocks would require you to cut your current shock mounts and weld in new ones. View attachment 121193
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G2’s are setup already
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I realize I am being unfun at the bar right now.

Earlier I made the statement that I am unsure how well MC springs play together with their own 6 Pack shocks. That hasn't changed.
 
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06TJ35's said:
Would the OP need or benefit having the MC 6pak shocks with 3” of lift?
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Good question. How much spring travel is there between solid and free? How does that compare to the shock travel?
 
BuildBreakRepeat said:
I’m confused why metal cloak would include such a long travel shock with such a short travel spring in comparison to a Currie spring....oh wait that’s right the “imaginary bucket” formed by binding out the top of the spring provides you with less up travel for no reason! But don’t tell their marketing team we are onto that...
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To be fair (which I'm trying to be!), Currie springs can't support 15" of travel.

The front MC technically mostly do, if we don't get too picky over a fraction of an inch on the 4.5", oddly. The rears just don't.

In order for their front coils to compliment these shocks, the shock mounts will need to be moved in order to better match the compressed and extended lengths of both the springs and the shocks. That is a significant part what we are doing when we move shock mounts. We are putting components in phase with other components.
 
jjvw said:
To be fair (which I'm trying to be!), Currie springs can't support 15" of travel.

The front MC technically mostly do, if we don't get too picky over a fraction of an inch on the 4.5", oddly. The rears just don't.

In order for their front coils to compliment these shocks, the shock mounts will need to be moved in order to better match the compressed and extended lengths of both the springs and the shocks. That is a significant part what we are doing when we move shock mounts. We are putting components in phase with other components.
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You’re right I know I need to be fair to MC. I have an issue with how the shocks and springs are not biased towards an even travel. In general they are set up to support more down travel at the expense of up - most glaring in the rear. There might even be a benefit to running the front six pak if you were to move the shock mount down.....all be it ruining the purpose of the shock given that you could just move the mount up to fit a longer smooth body you wouldn’t have such packaging issues with. Paired together I just don’t see how they play well. The spring has a longer compressed length than others, but the shock has a smaller compressed length than others.
 
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The front 6 packs are available in 13" or 15" travel and the rear shocks are only available in 13" travel. The front 13" MC shock is shorter than a stock TJ/LJ shock and the 15" is less than 1/4" longer than a stock shock. The rear 13" is a little shorter than a rear stock shock too. Like someone said, these shock pretty much eliminate the shock as a barrier for up or down travel. If I could not cut or weld the MC shocks would be on my wish list down the road.

The Metal Cloak springs have a longer free length by 1.25" to 2.5" than the Currie springs so I am guessing Currie springs and MC springs might be capable of 13" travel. It seems like a moot point is the rear shaft is binding at 11".

@jjvw Do you remember how much droop you get with the driveshaft removed?
 
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Brianj5600 said:
The front 6 packs are available in 13" or 15" travel and the rear shocks are only available in 13" travel. The front 13" MC shock is shorter than a stock TJ/LJ shock and the 15" is less than 1/4" longer than a stock shock. The rear 13" is a little shorter than a rear stock shock too. Like someone said, these shock pretty much eliminate the shock as a barrier for up or down travel. If I could not cut or weld the MC shocks would be on my wish list down the road.

The Metal Cloak springs have a longer free length by 1.25" to 2.5" than the Currie springs so I am guessing Currie springs and MC springs might be capable of 13" travel. It seems like a moot point is the rear shaft is binding at 11".

@jjvw Do you remember how much droop you get with the driveshaft removed?
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What is the benefit of more shock uptravel if the spring is already fully compressed?
 
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@jjvw Do you remember how much droop you get with the driveshaft removed?
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From ride height, the limit strap stops the rear drive shaft at about 5" down. From there, the wheels can each drop another inch until the shock reaches full extension. This is also the point where the coils just start to come loose. I've never measured how much there is after the shocks, but it is enough to hang off of the sway bar.
 
BuildBreakRepeat said:
You’re right I know I need to be fair to MC. I have an issue with how the shocks and springs are not biased towards an even travel. In general they are set up to support more down travel at the expense of up - most glaring in the rear. There might even be a benefit to running the front six pak if you were to move the shock mount down.....all be it ruining the purpose of the shock given that you could just move the mount up to fit a longer smooth body you wouldn’t have such packaging issues with. Paired together I just don’t see how they play well. The spring has a longer compressed length than others, but the shock has a smaller compressed length than others.
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I've seen people repeatedly say that the rear coils require a lot of bumpstop to be run properly, but I haven't seen any pictures or measurements.
Metalcloak lists their rear 3.5" springs at 6.5", which is a lot. I believe Currie springs are 5.5"
That 1" difference can be important, or not depending on the distance between the spring buckets when the suspension is fully compressed (no springs whatsoever). As I said, I haven't seen any actual measurements. Maybe I'll measure them when I get home today.
 
toximus said:
I don't know... it'd sure sound impressive at the bar after a trail ride that your shocks have 15" of travel — meanwhile everyone else will merely be trying to brag about how they got the best cheap light bar with reward points on Amazon. Poor mortals.
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No one in my wheeling groups ever mentions shock travel. 😊
 
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