Any feedback on Redline D4 ATF transfer case fluid for 241?

[ejay]

Going to be changing my 04 241 transfer case fluid. I know that it's not particularly picky as far as what ATF goes in per fluid recommendations in this forum. I ended up getting Redline D4 ATF. Anyone have any feedback regarding this Redline product?

 

[pagrey]

ATF+4 is way better than anything you mentioned, it is the only thing that can take the abuse of the 42RLE, if you want high performance there is nothing better.

 

[ejay]

ATF+4 is way better than anything you mentioned, it is the only thing that can take the abuse of the 42RLE, if you want high performance there is nothing better.

This is for the 241 transfer case; not the transmission. I have a manual anyway and use Redline MTL.

I have enough Mopar ATF+4 to do the job but also have a gallon of Redline D4 ATF. Mostly got that to flush the power steering but if I can use it in the transfer case and it's better than ATF+4 in that regard, I'd use it there.

Need some opinions on the difference between Redline synthetic D4 ATF and Mopar ATF+4 as I have both but not enough to do both jobs with just one.

 

[TJ4Jim]

Going to be changing my 04 241 transfer case fluid. I know that it's not particularly picky as far as what ATF goes in per fluid recommendations in this forum. I ended up getting Redline D4 ATF. Anyone have any feedback regarding this Redline product?

I have been using the Redline C+ATF in my 231 TC since 2013, no worries and that is what Redline recommends for the 241 TC. The D4 ATF is not recommended for the 241 by Redline..

 

[pagrey]

Need some opinions on the difference between Redline synthetic D4 ATF and Mopar ATF+4 as I have both but not enough to do both jobs with just one.

I'm just saying that Chrysler recommends ATF+4. I use the transmission as an example to clearly show the Redline stuff is not able to be used, it is simply not good enough to deal with the heat and stress. Even the cheap store brand ATF+4 is much better quality than the redline fluid. Beyond that, you already probably use ATF+4 in your power steering, why carry extra fluids that are rated less than what you already carry (edit, obviously I missed you swapped that out). I love redline for manual transmissions, there is just no doubt it is the best thing out there for that but this is different. That's all I was really getting at. Kinda funny you swapped out the power steering fluid, for the same reason.

 

[L J]

Even the cheap store brand ATF+4 is much better quality than the redline fluid.

Is cheap store brand ATF+4 much better quality than Redline C+ ATF?

 

[pagrey]

Is cheap store brand ATF+4 much better quality than Redline C+ ATF?

Both meet the same standards.
I've never read, heard or seen any difference, never seen a test that showed any difference, never heard one single example of a difference in use. Unlike redline manual transmission fluid, the ATF fluids do nothing different.

The original question was about Redline D4 ATF which is not ATF+4 certified so it iis clearly worse in this or pretty much any application that asks or ATF+4.

I know some people love their brands, buy whatever you like. My main point commenting on this thread is that the originally mentioned fluid is not up to the basic specs required.

 

[pagrey]

By the way PSC probably might have some good advice about power steering fluid. The last time I talked to them they didn't mention Redline but maybe things have changed. I obviously wouldn't go against their good advice.

 

[ejay]

Honestly I'm not sure what the difference is between the two, specifically. D4 and +4 I mean.

 

[L J]

My main point commenting on this thread is that the originally mentioned fluid is not up to the basic specs required.

I thought you may have some knowledge about the specifications of ATF+4 vs the C+ ATF.

By the way PSC probably might have some good advice about power steering fluid. The last time I talked to them they didn't mention Redline but maybe things have changed. I obviously wouldn't go against their good advice.

Swepco 715 is what they spec

 

[Feralkid]

The PhDs over at bitog forum told me that because atf4 specs are so specific that all atf4 is the same shit.

Whether its mopar, valvoline, or super tech, there is no difference. Different brands of atf4 are often bottled at the same location for this very reason.

It's not like motor oil where every manufacturer has a myriad of special blends that use different base oils and additives.

All atf4 is identical.

 

[pagrey]

Ya, it really is pretty unique stuff. Not like Redline just paid to certify their existing fluid and added the ATF+4 label to the bottom, they had to release a new product after they paid Chrysler to find out how it's made.

 

[ejay]

Ok, let me restructure the question.

Is Redline D4 ATF safe to use in the power steering?

Now I'm questioning my very existence here, guys.

 

[pagrey]

Ok, let me restructure the question.

Is Redline D4 ATF safe to use in the power steering?

Now I'm questioning my very existence here, guys.

I'm sorry, really. I was trying to be helpful but obviously failed. If redline says it's fine it's fine. If you really are worried call PSC, they are experts and really helpful. I'll go away now.

 

[ejay]

I'm sorry, really. I was trying to be helpful but obviously failed. If redline says it's fine it's fine. If you really are worried call PSC, they are experts and really helpful. I'll go away now.

I'm not pointing blame. I appreciate the advice. Redline doesn't say their stuff is good in any power steering system, specifically. Not knowing the difference between D4 and +4, and having used ATF in most power steering in the past, I'm dubious.

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Any good quality ATF is fine in the 231 or 241. No need for anything special there.

 

[ejay]

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/productselection.asp?Product=1688
Funny, they say you can use it as power steering fluid but doesn't list what systems. Also states it meets most ATF fluid specs but it seems closer to Dexron/Mercon then +4. Maybe that's what the D stands for.

 

[ejay]

Any good quality ATF is fine in the 231 or 241. No need for anything special there.

Any opinion on the power steering? Specifically, ATF +4 only?

 

[Jerry Bransford]

Any opinion on the power steering? Specifically, ATF +4 only?

2003 and newer use ATF+4. 2002 and older use PS fluid.

 

[ejay]

2003 and newer use ATF+4. 2002 and older use PS fluid.

That's what I figured based on available information. In that case I'll use the D4 for the transfer case and the +4 for the PS flush. Thanks.