Death wobble after alignment

Tycarver

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I was getting some death wobble if going over 45 ( only if I hit big bumps nothing small will cause it) I changed the trackbar bolt and got it very very tight (broke my big ratchet tight) and then got an alignment. Yet I’m still getting death wobble. Does anyone have any ideas? Wheel balance?
 
I did just have another thought my upper control arms are adjustable but my rears are not they are not factory but I don’t know if they are the correct ones for my lift so it could be that? But they got it aligned fine so could it even still be that?
 
Hey man , here's a quick death wobble run down-

First, do a dry test, turn the wheel slowly from 10-2 and see what has slop when you change directions, including the track bar.

Remember the track bar has 2 ends, and just soft bushings can do it.

Make sure your upper control arm bushings are solid

Do that and tell us what you see.
 
Hey man , here's a quick death wobble run down-

First, do a dry test, turn the wheel slowly from 10-2 and see what has slop when you change directions, including the track bar.

Remember the track bar has 2 ends, and just soft bushings can do it.

Make sure your upper control arm bushings are solid

Do that and tell us what you see.

Upper control arms are solid I’ll take a video of the steering bars while I move it back and forth look over is and I’ll post it in here also give me just a bit.
 
Had to shorten the video a lot but I looked over it zooming in on every spot and don’t see anything
 

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Hope you get your death wobble figured out!! Best bet would be to run into an ntb they’ll put it on a lift and let you wiggle stuff around if they’re not anal about customers being in a shop I run to my local store and do it all the time to avoid the hassle of jack stands lol

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I had a little shop near me look into it they said everything seemed tight and it aligned good.
 
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I'd check your wheel balance, it's a very common cause of DW. It also looks like you changed out your steering system from the Y link, which may cause all sorts of other issues.
 
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I'd check your wheel balance, it's a very common cause of DW. It also looks like you changed out your steering system from the Y link, which may cause all sorts of other issues.

steering bars are about 2 years old never had the issue before so I don’t think it’s that but still possible. Would one wheel out of balance really be enough to throw it into death wobble? I thought it was all about alignment.
 
steering bars are about 2 years old never had the issue before so I don’t think it’s that but still possible. Would one wheel out of balance really be enough to throw it into death wobble? I thought it was all about alignment.
You’d be surprised at what’s enough to cause a death wobble the bigger the tire the better the leverage; jeeps are like giraffes you get one leg wiggle and the whole things shakin around 😂😂
 
You’d be surprised at what’s enough to cause a death wobble the bigger the tire the better the leverage; jeeps are like giraffes you get one leg wiggle and the whole things shakin around 😂😂

I guess it’s possible my tires are not even big boy tires yet :( haha
 
My lower control arms are for sure not the ones that are supposed to be on it could this be the issue? Or will my top adjustable ones make up for it?
 
Death Wobble is simply auto oscillation of the steering system , and it can be 100 percent a bad,worn, low or out of balance tire causing it, a worn , or multiple worn components allowing it, and get this ...any combination of the above, any percentage of either working together.

If it's entirely loose components, and perfect tires ...the. It's passive death wobble ...all's good til you hit a bump ..then it starts.

I've known of one defective front brake rotor cause it on a JK.

Are Jeeps hyper sensitive to it? Not really, it's just an inherent characteristic of all track bar/coil spring front ends when things are loose or shake them , and is exacerbated by larger tires in relation to the steering systems design and scale.

My 2012 F250 had it, at 82mph. That was the magic speed, and boy was it scary. A new track bar fixed it.

It's often the track bar, and don't count on identifying it by hand, it takes way more force to reveal too much slop or bushing flex.
 
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Death Wobble is simply auto oscillation of the steering system , and it can be 100 percent a bad,worn, low or out of balance tire causing it, a worn , or multiple worn components allowing it, and get this ...any combination of the above, any percentage of either working together.

If it's entirely loose components, and perfect tires ...the. It's passive death wobble ...all's good til you hit a bump ..then it starts.

I've known of one defective front brake rotor cause it on a JK.

Are Jeeps hyper sensitive to it? Not really, it's just an inherent characteristic of all track bar/coil spring front ends when things are loose or shake them , and is exacerbated by larger tires in relation to the steering systems design and scale.

My 2012 F250 had it, at 82mph. That was the magic speed, and boy was it scary. A new track bar fixed it.

It's often the track bar, and don't count on identifying it by hand, it takes way more force to reveal too much slop or bushing flex.

i have an aftermarket trackbar I’m unsure of the brand I think it’s rough country (shit) but that’s just from looking at some online and comparing.
 
Death Wobble is simply auto oscillation of the steering system , and it can be 100 percent a bad,worn, low or out of balance tire causing it, a worn , or multiple worn components allowing it, and get this ...any combination of the above, any percentage of either working together.

If it's entirely loose components, and perfect tires ...the. It's passive death wobble ...all's good til you hit a bump ..then it starts.

I've known of one defective front brake rotor cause it on a JK.

Are Jeeps hyper sensitive to it? Not really, it's just an inherent characteristic of all track bar/coil spring front ends when things are loose or shake them , and is exacerbated by larger tires in relation to the steering systems design and scale.

My 2012 F250 had it, at 82mph. That was the magic speed, and boy was it scary. A new track bar fixed it.

It's often the track bar, and don't count on identifying it by hand, it takes way more force to reveal too much slop or bushing flex.
Also mine is only after hitting bumps never from just driving around and it has to be a pretty bad bump (there’s construction everywhere where I live and only one or two will cause it around here)
 
i have an aftermarket trackbar I’m unsure of the brand I think it’s rough country (shit) but that’s just from looking at some online and comparing.
Great track bar actually..junk bushings . I run a 3/4 ton dodgr moog bushing in mine with a bigger bolt .