Am I the only one who thinks a snorkel on a TJ is crazy?

The Hauk River Raider was the best design. I was gonna get one but I didn't before he robbed everyone and went out of business. 1. I liked the LOOK of it. 2. my main focus was trying to eliminate 160* + air intake temps!!
A snorkel may not benefit cleaner air if you are traveling in a pack, but if you are wheeling alone or are lead vehicle, your front tires beating the trail are putting much more dirt under your hood than on top of your hood, saying otherwise is ridiculous.

I've got a short HMMWV style & it doesn't block my view

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I have a Ford Windstar filter housing in the garage just waiting for me to do a cowl intake. IAT and dust is all I’m looking to solve. I have a boat if I want to cross the lake.
 
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I have a boat if I want to cross the lake.

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This will seem like a long ramble because it is just a collection of my personal experience tagging along on trips with older vehicles. Not an expert opinion or recommendation by any means:



Concerns over electrical damage are vastly overstated. It just isn’t that big an issue for most offroaders there that try to minimize the time spent in water.

The more extreme folks will do things like stuffing special sealant in the electricals, relocating interior wiring to the ceiling, bringing spare fan clutches, sealing off electrical blocks. Alternator/starter/fuses don’t seem to be affected most of the time.

The bigger concern is the trans/tcase/axles for which you either add or extended the factory breathers. Still a good idea to check all fluids every couple trips. There are also considerations with the snorkel quality, installation and maintenance.



Prevention is the best medicine. Enter the water slowly and only then slowly speed up to keep the wave in front of your hood. Always walk the seemingly “small puddle” before crossing.

If you happen to catastrophically flood the interior, and it’s sunny out, let it sit and just dry out. Insulation within door cards and in engine bay may fall apart. Over time, the wire harness will start falling apart and glitching, so try to dry it out too.

If you’re an idiot and entered say a fast moving river and feel the rig start to float, open your doors! It’s better to flood the interior and get towed away, than for you to get taken away/rolled over who knows to where.




But nothing is guaranteed. Occasionally people still do flood their electronics, hydrolock the engines or even write off their vehicles entirely. I see it as a similar level of risk to rolling over while rock crawling here in the US.

This all assumes freshwater of course, saltwater is an entirely different ball game.

See but at the same time the fact people will wash take their Jeeps through a car wash and it won’t start after kinda proves they are subject to water easily causing problems.

The only way I think you prevent that is by caking all the plugs full of dielectric grease, like you mentioned. I’m not sure how some of the major plugs would be able to be moved to “higher ground” is the thing.
 
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See but at the same time the fact people will wash take their Jeeps through a car wash and it won’t start after kinda proves they are subject to water easily causing problems.

The only way I think you prevent that is by caking all the plugs full of dielectric grease, like you mentioned. I’m not sure how some of the major plugs would be able to be moved to “higher ground” is the thing.

Who's had this problem? I haven't heard about it here. My hood is full of louvers and sits uncovered and hasn't had this problem. I have a pressure washer at home and will occasionally pop the hood to spray off the engine. Guess I've been lucky?
 
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See but at the same time the fact people will wash take their Jeeps through a car wash and it won’t start after kinda proves they are subject to water easily causing problems.

The only way I think you prevent that is by caking all the plugs full of dielectric grease, like you mentioned. I’m not sure how some of the major plugs would be able to be moved to “higher ground” is the thing.

Who's had this problem? I haven't heard about it here. My hood is full of louvers and sits uncovered and hasn't had this problem. I have a pressure washer at home and will occasionally pop the hood to spray off the engine. Guess I've been luck?

I haven't heard of this problem either. Any modern car should be able to get through an automatic car wash, no issues.

Now pointing a pressure washer directly at the fusebox/PCM is a different story, no amount of grease will help you.
 
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Who's had this problem? I haven't heard about it here. My hood is full of louvers and sits uncovered and hasn't had this problem. I have a pressure washer at home and will occasionally pop the hood to spray off the engine. Guess I've been luck?

I haven't heard of this problem either. Any modern car should be able to get through an automatic car wash, no issues.

Now pointing a pressure washer directly at the fusebox/PCM is a different story, no amount of grease will help you.

It’s a thing, it’s happened to my dad and I, and I’ve seen posts about it. Not sure the likeliness and it may be anecdotal. Not to make anyone paranoid hahah
 
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I haven't heard of this problem either. Any modern car should be able to get through an automatic car wash, no issues...

Not an electrical problem, but the new Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon have been experiencing the roof buckling when going through an automatic car wash.

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Canyon and Colorado Owners Experiencing Roof Issues

The article states that only vehicles without a sunroof are affected, but as you can see from the pic the sunroof doesn't prevent it at all.
 
Not an electrical problem, but the new Chevy Colorado and GMC Canyon have been experiencing the roof buckling when going through an automatic car wash.

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Canyon and Colorado Owners Experiencing Roof Issues

The article states that only vehicles without a sunroof are affected, but as you can see from the pic the sunroof doesn't prevent it at all.

I own a car wash and have seen this first hand. Guy had only owned it for a couple days. It's caused by the blowers at the end that dry the car. On newer cars you can see the hood and roof bend slightly from the pressure, but for some reason these trucks actually dent.
 
Who's had this problem? I haven't heard about it here. My hood is full of louvers and sits uncovered and hasn't had this problem. I have a pressure washer at home and will occasionally pop the hood to spray off the engine. Guess I've been lucky?

I had a mechanic pressure wash my engine without my permission. Caused a lot of electrical problems and was a real pain to fix. I don't recommend doing it with 20 year old connectors unless you cover each one first.

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I own a car wash and have seen this first hand. Guy had only owned it for a couple days. It's caused by the blowers at the end that dry the car. On newer cars you can see the hood and roof bend slightly from the pressure, but for some reason these trucks actually dent.

I have a soft top on my TJ. Personally, I would never take it thru a car wash. You never know if you'll get a leak from the seals.
 
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I don't know, I have personally hydrolocked two engines in the past that both resulted in replacement. In my experience if an engine locks while running there is almost always internal damage of some sort. Both times I was on city streets and not crossing some large river. I wish I would have had a snorkel, it would have saved me money. Overlanders and posers have wrecked the mod for anyone who may actually benefit.