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Ever seen or heard of a diesel powered TJ?

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I was talking trucks with my son a couple of days ago and he asked about dropping a diesel engine into at TJ. I did a Brave search on the question and it reported back a few supposed facts:
  • Cummins 4BT Diesel Swap is one of the most popular upgrades for the Jeep TJ Wrangler, known for its strong low-end torque and excellent fuel economy.
  • The 606 engine (a smaller, mechanical diesel) is praised for its simplicity and reliability, with a footprint similar to the 4.0L and no need for ECU integration.
  • The Mercedes OM617 5-cylinder turbo diesel, which offers 123 HP and 170 lb-ft of torque.
  • The Kubota V2403, a lighter 2.4L engine ideal for those seeking better fuel economy and easier installation.
  • The 606 engine (a smaller, mechanical diesel) is praised for its simplicity and reliability, with a footprint similar to the 4.0L and no need for ECU integration.
I think he actually mentioned the Kubota. Must've looked it up like I did.

Has anybody here actually ever done a diesel swap or seen one done? Would the rest of the drive train have to be swapped out, as well?

I doubt that it's anything I'd ever do, but for my driving the low-end torque would be nice. My Negrita almost never see pavement.
 
TJMexico said:
I was talking trucks with my son a couple of days ago and he asked about dropping a diesel engine into at TJ. I did a Brave search on the question and it reported back a few supposed facts:
  • Cummins 4BT Diesel Swap is one of the most popular upgrades for the Jeep TJ Wrangler, known for its strong low-end torque and excellent fuel economy.
  • The 606 engine (a smaller, mechanical diesel) is praised for its simplicity and reliability, with a footprint similar to the 4.0L and no need for ECU integration.
  • The Mercedes OM617 5-cylinder turbo diesel, which offers 123 HP and 170 lb-ft of torque.
  • The Kubota V2403, a lighter 2.4L engine ideal for those seeking better fuel economy and easier installation.
  • The 606 engine (a smaller, mechanical diesel) is praised for its simplicity and reliability, with a footprint similar to the 4.0L and no need for ECU integration.
I think he actually mentioned the Kubota. Must've looked it up like I did.

Has anybody here actually ever done a diesel swap or seen one done? Would the rest of the drive train have to be swapped out, as well?

I doubt that it's anything I'd ever do, but for my driving the low-end torque would be nice. My Negrita almost never see pavement.
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I'm pretty sure there is one still listed for sale here in CO. A Rubicon LJ no less.
 
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So, if I were to try to do that here in Sonora (Mexico), what'd be the easiest swap? I'd hire it out, not do it at home.

Seems like the Kubota might be a good option and I might could get the motor here. Again, not something I'm looking at doing now but it'd be good to have the option open.

@RustyAutoholicGuy , how was the swap? Did you have to change anything else in the drivetrain? Is it something that good mechanic could figure out?
 
TJMexico said:
So, if I were to try to do that here in Sonora (Mexico), what'd be the easiest swap? I'd hire it out, not do it at home.
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It depends on whats available down there for a donor. If you've got a lot of VW diesels, i'd be looking for something like a CJAA. I'm likely to do a Mercedes Benz OM648 in mine eventually when the 4.0 dies. The Kubota has a reputation for being quite slow from what I've read. the OM606 that search mentioned isn't mechanical from factory but a mechanical pump can be added.
Another cool swap would be the BMW M57.
Regardless of what route you take, its a pricey proposition. I just wrapped up a VW AAZ swap into my 1988 Samurai (I think they're the Jimny in Mexico) and that was $7,000 usd with 100% of the work done myself. $2500 for the engine, $3000 for the kit and the rest on other bits and pieces. I also forsee another $2000 to be spent.... Needs an intercooler and the turbo replaced.
 
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TJMexico said:
I was talking trucks with my son a couple of days ago and he asked about dropping a diesel engine into at TJ. I did a Brave search on the question and it reported back a few supposed facts:
  • Cummins 4BT Diesel Swap is one of the most popular upgrades for the Jeep TJ Wrangler, known for its strong low-end torque and excellent fuel economy.
  • The 606 engine (a smaller, mechanical diesel) is praised for its simplicity and reliability, with a footprint similar to the 4.0L and no need for ECU integration.
  • The Mercedes OM617 5-cylinder turbo diesel, which offers 123 HP and 170 lb-ft of torque.
  • The Kubota V2403, a lighter 2.4L engine ideal for those seeking better fuel economy and easier installation.
  • The 606 engine (a smaller, mechanical diesel) is praised for its simplicity and reliability, with a footprint similar to the 4.0L and no need for ECU integration.
I think he actually mentioned the Kubota. Must've looked it up like I did.

Has anybody here actually ever done a diesel swap or seen one done? Would the rest of the drive train have to be swapped out, as well?

I doubt that it's anything I'd ever do, but for my driving the low-end torque would be nice. My Negrita almost never see pavement.
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Local workshop to me specialises in putting BMW M57s in vehicles (mostly Nissan Patrols) and they're keen as mustard to put 1 into my TJ(and take my money for the privilege). Seen the work they've done with them and been for a ride in a Defender 90 with the swap and it's incredibly tempting as importing even a 4.6 stroker from USA costs about the same for me as an Aussie.
 
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lBasket said:
Isn't it like 800lbs?
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:oops:I thought that was how much the 6BT weighed. Nope, those extra 2 cylinders weight another 200-300 lbs.

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No wonder no one does that swap.

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BlueC said:
:oops:I thought that was how much the 6BT weighed. Nope, those extra 2 cylinders weight another 200-300 lbs.

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No wonder no one does that swap.

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There is a big difference between a heavy duty industrial diesel and most light duty automotive style diesels. That said , most folks won't like the vibration and low highway horsepower the Cummins provides . Diesel engines are a funny topic , unless your application really can't be answered any other way , everything about a diesel is pain . Including total cost per mile costs.
 
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