Yes, another O2 sensor dilemma. First a little background.
I'm new to jeeps as of 10 months ago and decided to start the adventure with a 2006 Wrangler 4.0 in running condition but with many issues - a retirement project if you will.
Amongst other things were O2 sensor PIDs related to Bank2:Sensor2. It mostly ran fine but with low MPGs (10MPG) and frequent rough shifting when cold.
After much reading (and much great info from this forum) I discovered the reliability issues with the later TJ's PCM so bought one from WranglerFix. The OBD2 errors went away as did the rough shifting (still crappy gas mileage). I was happy up until 2 months ago when the OBD2 errors popped up again, this time on sensors 1:1 and 2:2.
I should note when the problem first popped up I replaced all 4 O2 sensors with Walker parts listed on a post here. The OBD2 error & shifting issue was still there until I installed the new PCM.
I check continuity on the O2 cables & looked at OBD2 voltage plots and it seemed sensors 1:1 & 2:2 were responding slowly when the vehicle was first started (sensors slow to warm up?). The heater lines seemed to be connected when checking continuity. I'm not a fan of blindly replacing parts, but the warranty is thin on the PCM so I decided to replace the 2 problem O2 sensors with NTK parts. Problem still there.
Enclosed is a plot of all 4 O2 sensors at start and idle for about 5 min. There are a couple throttle pumps in there as well. I have some ideas for what to do next, but am looking for input from experts as well as wanted to leave a trail of data for any newbs behind me to follow ( I love data).
It does look like the new NTK sensor 1:1 is slow to warm up. Also 2:2 is a little slow. Also interesting is 1:2 does not seem to be riding on the expected 2.5V bias. These are things I will look into next.
Long enough post for now, but am looking forward to any feedback. I'll post progress as I work through this. Thanks.
I'm new to jeeps as of 10 months ago and decided to start the adventure with a 2006 Wrangler 4.0 in running condition but with many issues - a retirement project if you will.
Amongst other things were O2 sensor PIDs related to Bank2:Sensor2. It mostly ran fine but with low MPGs (10MPG) and frequent rough shifting when cold.
After much reading (and much great info from this forum) I discovered the reliability issues with the later TJ's PCM so bought one from WranglerFix. The OBD2 errors went away as did the rough shifting (still crappy gas mileage). I was happy up until 2 months ago when the OBD2 errors popped up again, this time on sensors 1:1 and 2:2.
I should note when the problem first popped up I replaced all 4 O2 sensors with Walker parts listed on a post here. The OBD2 error & shifting issue was still there until I installed the new PCM.
I check continuity on the O2 cables & looked at OBD2 voltage plots and it seemed sensors 1:1 & 2:2 were responding slowly when the vehicle was first started (sensors slow to warm up?). The heater lines seemed to be connected when checking continuity. I'm not a fan of blindly replacing parts, but the warranty is thin on the PCM so I decided to replace the 2 problem O2 sensors with NTK parts. Problem still there.
Enclosed is a plot of all 4 O2 sensors at start and idle for about 5 min. There are a couple throttle pumps in there as well. I have some ideas for what to do next, but am looking for input from experts as well as wanted to leave a trail of data for any newbs behind me to follow ( I love data).
It does look like the new NTK sensor 1:1 is slow to warm up. Also 2:2 is a little slow. Also interesting is 1:2 does not seem to be riding on the expected 2.5V bias. These are things I will look into next.
Long enough post for now, but am looking forward to any feedback. I'll post progress as I work through this. Thanks.