Thoughts on 2” standoff for grab bars?

any4xx

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I’ve been pontificating over grab bars for my ‘04 LJ. I REALLY wasn’t wanting to cut the A-pillar trim for the bars to go through, but I saw no real choice unless I spent $200.00 on the bars that bolt to collars around the front of the roll bar. But to fit those one has to cut the roll bar padding away.

But I had a moment while looking at the mounting bolts for the fronts of the roll bar where they bolt to the A-pillar. I bought the ones that bolt to those, but used a pair of 2” bushings on each side to act as standoffs so that the bars sit behind the A-pillar trim instead of having to go through holes drilled in the trim.

I used parts that I had laying around, but unfortunately I only had the Grade 10.9 bolts in 70mm and 100mm. Of course 70 was too short and, you know…

Right now I’ve got them mounted up with the 100mm bolts through 2” bushings and stacks of washers to make the long bolts useable. I’ve got some 80mm and 90mm bolts coming tomorrow and will play with the washer stacks to get them looking a bit cleaner.

So what’s the consensus? Should I just suck it up and drill the holes in my trim pieces or does this look like a sound install? The bolts I ordered are black flanged-head so they should look a little neater and the washer stacks will disappear as well.

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OK, I'll go first but think you'll already know my opinion...

Mounting those grab bars that far beyond the intended position is a head-knocker safety issue. Using a large enough hole saw for adequate clearance is a once 'n done solution as I showed in your other related topic. With the cut hole located correctly, the trim panel slips on inverted and feeds into position. Determining that location on each side is the only step needing extra caution (measure 2 or 3 times).
 
I’ve been pontificating over grab bars for my ‘04 LJ. I REALLY wasn’t wanting to cut the A-pillar trim for the bars to go through, but I saw no real choice unless I spent $200.00 on the bars that bolt to collars around the front of the roll bar. But to fit those one has to cut the roll bar padding away.

But I had a moment while looking at the mounting bolts for the fronts of the roll bar where they bolt to the A-pillar. I bought the ones that bolt to those, but used a pair of 2” bushings on each side to act as standoffs so that the bars sit behind the A-pillar trim instead of having to go through holes drilled in the trim.

I used parts that I had laying around, but unfortunately I only had the Grade 10.9 bolts in 70mm and 100mm. Of course 70 was too short and, you know…

Right now I’ve got them mounted up with the 100mm bolts through 2” bushings and stacks of washers to make the long bolts useable. I’ve got some 80mm and 90mm bolts coming tomorrow and will play with the washer stacks to get them looking a bit cleaner.

So what’s the consensus? Should I just suck it up and drill the holes in my trim pieces or does this look like a sound install? The bolts I ordered are black flanged-head so they should look a little neater and the washer stacks will disappear as well.

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Have you pulled yourself up into the Jeep using the handle with your weird extensions that put a lot of leverage against the windshield frame?
 
Have you pulled yourself up into the Jeep using the handle with your weird extensions?

I have. No deflection at all. As mentioned above I’m a bit concerned about the proximity to my noggin if I run into a tree. But I think the bars that clamp around the roll bar sit even farther back than these in their current position.
 
I have. No deflection at all. As mentioned above I’m a bit concerned about the proximity to my noggin if I run into a tree. But I think the bars that clamp around the roll bar sit even farther back than these in their current position.

You added a lot of leverage to the mounting surface on the windshield frame with very little support.
 
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You added a lot of leverage to the mounting surface on the windshield frame with very little support.

That’s actually my biggest concern. This install is certainly not etched in stone for me. I’m really wanting hard criticism before I commit to making it my permanent solution.
 
That’s actually my biggest concern. This install is certainly not etched in stone for me. I’m really wanting hard criticism before I commit to making it my permanent solution.

It should be your biggest concern.
 
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If it helps, I just recently installed grab handles with the late model trim. I was very nervous about drilling the trim pieces, luckily I found a TJ in a junkyard and was able to get spares for both A pillars. I followed the measurement somebody else posted on another thread on here and it came out perfect. I ordered the rubber grommets and didn’t even use them. I think it looks better without them honestly. So if that’s what you’re trying to avoid, I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
 
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Well… this is really a product of my own phobia when it comes to cutting holes in factory parts. After all of your feedback and a quick trip online to discover that I can buy replacement trim pieces if I royally hose them up I went back out and put my hole saw to work.

It actually worked out much better than expected. I have no problem rebuilding an engine or a transmission, but when it comes to accurately measuring and cutting a simple piece of plastic trim I break out in a cold sweat.

Anyway… Thank you all for talking me off the cliff and setting me straight.

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Well, I had to step away for a few minutes, but  before you did anything, I was  going to say:
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...are you sure you need anyone's opinions?
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I think it looks pretty good. 🤙🏼

I always think I’m right when I jump into something. Sadly, I’m proven wrong about 82.7% of the time. But then I’m right again when I listen to those who have either traveled the road already or are just plain smarter than I am!