Hey, so I just sold my 1998 Jeep tj se, and the guy gets home and hears a bad sound from the rear. It was from the differential. Any idea what could have caused this?
Dana 35 damage
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Don’t let him convince you to take it back or give him any money back. You have no idea what he did on the way home after he bought it and in no way are you responsible.
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That's what I told him (my kid). He drove over an hour to meet the dude halfway and no problems what-so-ever, I think that's beyond fair to offer to drive that far for a "maybe" sale. Dude test drove it all over the place and it ran like a champ.
@smcnich ...and we don't know what was done on the way home, good point.
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A buddy sold his rig that I installed a rear Dana 44 in with disc brakes. The next day, the new buyer calls me and wants to know if the rear disc brake parking brake is covered by any sort of a warranty.
Why do you ask?
Well, they are all broken and wadded up inside the drums.
Who was driving and what happened?
My teenage son was driving and did a bit of shake down offroad on the way home after we picked it up.
That's good, tell him that in the future, he needs to release the parking brake before he drives off in 4 low.
He says he didn't do that.
Yeah, I know, but it is very easy to tell when that has been done. It wads up the parking brake shoes and hardware after it snaps the anchor pin off of the backing plate.
He didn't do that, I asked him.
I'm not here to call your kid a liar so no, there is no warranty for self inflicted damage and that is the only way that damage happens. You can get new parts at 4 Wheel Parts where that axle was purchased by the previous owner.
He is telling the truth.
I believe you believe that, go buy some parts and fix it, I gotta go now. And, in case it isn't clear, after you fix it, if you drive off in 4 low with the parking brake applied, it will wad up the hardware and shoes after it snaps the anchor off the backing plate. click.
This is exactly why whenever I sell a vehicle, the bill of sale I have them sign says "vehicle is sold as is, no express or implied warranty". In case they call claiming a problem, I can have them review the bill of sale they signed. Private party sales of vehicles in Texas have no requirement for merchantability although I always do my best to disclose any known defects ahead of the sale.
Sorry you are dealing with this but as @smcnich states, you have no idea what they did after they drove off.
Sorry you are dealing with this but as @smcnich states, you have no idea what they did after they drove off.
Knowing the pinion nut backed off before, perhaps you may want to consider throwing the buyer a couple hundred bucks for good will? If he did damage the vehicle out of neglect and sill takes the money you are still a good guy and he is a prick.
If he throws one cent at the buyer he is accepting responsibility. He isn't responsible.
Interesting.
Just when you feel like you should do the right thing, it could turn around and bite you in the ass.
If you had a problem with the pinion nut backing off before and didn't mention it to the buyer....well, let your conscience be your guide.
thats some nasty damage. sold as is, correct?
it's very unfortunate that this occurred and quite possibly could have probably been avoided with a new lock nut and loctite, but any used purchase is a roll of the dice.
it's very unfortunate that this occurred and quite possibly could have probably been avoided with a new lock nut and loctite, but any used purchase is a roll of the dice.
The rig drove on the highway for at least an hour with no issue. The buyer test drove it extensively before the purchase. At that point in time it was sound, and the buyer agreed that it was indeed sound enough to purchase.
No one on the seller's side of things knows what happened after that.
There is no "right thing" to do that involves throwing money at the buyer.
My example above is just one of many where buyers expect or request more than they are actually entitled to due to the fucking Amazon mentality.
I swapped a sub 1000 mile Dana 44 front into a rig. It was a trade deal. I had two rigs, each had the gears the other one needed. Rather than re-gear and buy lockers, it was cheaper just to trade axles.
After it was all done, the nearly new front 44 started leaking from an inner seal about 2 weeks after he started driving it.
Owner asks me to fix it under warranty.
Do you remember when you came by and I pulled the diff cover? Do you remember that the gear marking set up grease was still on the gears?
Yes
Okay, that means that they have very low miles. If you recall, I was not involved in the transaction other than facilitating it to the benefit of each of you. I did not order the axles, I did not build the axles, I made no money at all on the sale of the axles between you and the other guy.
Yes, but it is a warranty thing and you should take care of it.
You drove it for 2 weeks before it started leaking.
Again, I am not responsible because I didn't have anything to do with them except move them from one rig to another.
Long story shorter, he kept on and on about this until I finally told him to take it to a local shop that he was friends with the owner of. Have him replace the front inner axle seals and if he can find a single thing that points to me doing anything wrong that will cause the inner seals to leak, I'll pay for the whole repair.
Well, we both know you didn't do anything wrong.
WTF??