Clayton Long Arm

[jjvw]

The arm contact alone may not have stopped him anywhere else, but the compounding issues your describing are commonplace in JV. Hence Blaine's "this part of the world" comment. The pictures don't do it justice, you have to see it for yourself. No one is saying long arms can't work other places, only that they don't in JV.

We can rephrase it and say that the deficiencies of long arms don't present themselves in every situation. There are plenty of long arms in Colorado, but very few places out here reveal the meaningful problems of long arms or lifted short arms. Though I have seen the occasional "custom" long arm that does some really bizarre dancing in situations that didn't make any sense at all.

 

[mrblaine]

I’ve seen that pic many times. And I have always wondered what the pic looks like zoomed back a little bit honestly. I’d love too see what the other tires are doing or up against.

Because from what I see, there’s contact between the arm and rock, but to me and many I’ve shown it to, without another perspective, it doesn’t look like it’s enough to stop forward movement. If all 3 other tires have traction, looks like you should crawl right over that.

Have I scraped my arms over rocks? Of course. But my short arms did the too when I had them. But they’ve never been the reason I was denied on an obstacle.

I took the pic. I took it because yet again, the only thing stopping forward progress was the contact between the rock and the long arm(s). All the tires were on the ground, nothing was preventing them from achieving forward progress, nothing was stopping the diffs, Jerry was on the line, the same one that everyone else with a similarly built rig used and they walked through with no issue. The problem is the belly skid that the long arms attach to hangs down lower than it should and when you add the arm connections to it, the loss of ground clearance makes for a long day on our trails.

Just so you know, that wasn't an obstacle, that is just the trail. Until you have been to JV, it is hard to understand.

 

[mrblaine]

The arm contact alone may not have stopped him anywhere else, but the compounding issues your describing are commonplace in JV. Hence Blaine's "this part of the world" comment. The pictures don't do it justice, you have to see it for yourself. No one is saying long arms can't work other places, only that they don't in JV.

I've said it many times, I say it pretty much the same way each time. Long arms are not enough of a problem to cut them off and fix them, short arms are not enough of a problem to change them to long arms out there. Both work, both have some problems, neither prevents anyone from going out there and having a blast.

 

[Bigmac]

Jerry, using the awesome pics provided by Mac in his album, can you pick out approximately where you were for your picture. I

To be completely transparent here these are not my photos. I did not take them. I do not own them.

 

[mrblaine]

Have I scraped my arms over rocks? Of course. But my short arms did the too when I had them. But they’ve never been the reason I was denied on an obstacle.

Post up a pic of your scrapes on rocks. I'll be astounded if they look anything like the stuff that a steady diet of JV will give you.

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[Stevemack]

Absolutely...literally heading out the door for dance recital day...I’ll grab them later.

 

[mrblaine]

Stevemack- This may help.
There is a very narrow line through here. I'll walk it through for you.
Not the line, you gotta back up and come through the notch.

Alright, that's better, now come forward a bit. Keep your tires on the high spots. As you come through, your left front needs to be on top of the rock with the red arrow.

Don't go to the right. If you drop that tire off the rock, you'll be hung on your rocker on the right side, stay on top of the rocks and put your tire on the one with the red arrow above.

Oh, so close, you almost had it, now that rock is against your diff and you ain't going anywhere. Back up and lets try it again.

The point of all that is to get it clear enough that you can see how narrow the line is and why regardless of what you have on the belly, the tires have to be in exact spots to get the rig over the trail.

 

[Stevemack]

Wife is pissed..just grabbed a few while leaving the driveway...

Excuse the light surface rust...It is the NE remember...Bare metal flashes in a matter of minutes it seems. Driving on rocks take powdercoating right off.

 

[mrblaine]

Wife is pissed..just grabbed a few while leaving the driveway...

Excuse the light surface rust...It is the NE remember...Bare metal flashes in a matter of minutes it seems. Driving on rocks take powdercoating right off.

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This shouldn't be that hard to understand then.